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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #120 on: May 30, 2019, 09:33:39 AM »
Before anything was moved, the sniper's nest was photographed and the original positions of the shells and the Rolling Reader box on the window ledge can be determined.



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Before anything was moved, the sniper's nest was photographed

Are you sure about this?

And if so, where is the paper bag in those photos?

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #121 on: May 30, 2019, 09:43:02 AM »
Too bad Oswald's rifle was found on the same floor

You mean the rifle with questionable documentation,


Why would the conspirators set up Oswald with questionable documentation?

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #122 on: May 30, 2019, 09:50:08 AM »
And if so, where is the paper bag in those photos?

For a start are you familiar where the paper bag was found?
And secondly, it's only a paper bag Martin and if Oswald made the bag disappear by flushing the paper bag, burning the paper bag or eating the paper bag, that in no way makes Oswald innocent, you do understand this basic concept, don't you?

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #123 on: May 30, 2019, 10:08:58 AM »
For a start are you familiar where the paper bag was found?
And secondly, it's only a paper bag Martin and if Oswald made the bag disappear by flushing the paper bag, burning the paper bag or eating the paper bag, that in no way makes Oswald innocent, you do understand this basic concept, don't you?

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For a start are you familiar where the paper bag was found?

Inside the sniper's nest, right?

And secondly, it's only a paper bag Martin and if Oswald made the bag disappear by flushing the paper bag, burning the paper bag or eating the paper bag, that in no way makes Oswald innocent, you do understand this basic concept, don't you? 

Completely beside the point. You claimed that the photos were taken before anything was moved in the sniper's nest. If that were true that paper bag should also still be in situ and thus appear in the photographs. You do understand this basic concept, don't you?

And btw it's far more than "only a paper bag".... It's the most vital piece of "evidence" the WC had to explain how the rifle got from Irving to the TSBD! Without the paper bag all they would have had was a rifle found at the TSBD with a questionable link to Oswald.
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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #124 on: May 30, 2019, 10:13:35 AM »
Why would the conspirators set up Oswald with questionable documentation?

JohnM

Good question. Perhaps you should ask them….. Maybe it was only intended to fool some of the people some of the time...

Regardless, the purchase documentation from Klein's remains questionable. No doubt about it.
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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #125 on: May 30, 2019, 10:24:33 AM »
For a start are you familiar where the paper bag was found?

Inside the sniper's nest, right?


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Inside the sniper's nest, right?

The paper bag was found to the left of where Oswald was sitting, which was nowhere near the shells in the following photo and this area seemed to be deemed not as important as the area where the actual shells that came from Oswald's rifle.



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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #126 on: May 30, 2019, 10:29:37 AM »
Good question. Perhaps you should ask them….. Maybe it was only intended to fool some of the people some of the time...

Regardless, the purchase documentation from Klein's remains questionable. No doubt about it.

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Good question.

Yeah, sure is.

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Perhaps you should ask them…..

It's not my conspiracy, you're the one who needs to find the answers?

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Maybe it was only intended to fool some of the people some of the time...

Or maybe Oswald ordered, received and used his rifle, how about that!

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Regardless, the purchase documentation from Klein's remains questionable. No doubt about it.

Was Waldman involved in setting up Oswald? Of course he was, right Martin?

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #127 on: May 30, 2019, 10:37:00 AM »
The paper bag was found to the left of where Oswald was sitting, which was nowhere near the shells in the following photo and this area seemed to be deemed not as important as the area where the actual shells that came from Oswald's rifle.



JohnM

Yeah, I expected that you would go this way. Too bad you didn't think it through….

For one thing, you seem to be claiming that only this particular photo was taken before something was moved in the sniper's nest, but let's be real... do you really think the photographer was so incompetent that he only took one photo of half the alleged crime scene?

Secondly, as the photo does not show the entire sniper's nest, you have no way of knowing if nothing was moved before the photo was taken, making you original claim silly and invalid.

Want to try again, John?

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #128 on: May 30, 2019, 10:43:46 AM »
Yeah, sure is.

It's not my conspiracy, you're the one who needs to find the answers?

Or maybe Oswald ordered, received and used his rifle, how about that!

Was Waldman involved in setting up Oswald? Of course he was, right Martin?

JohnM

It's not my conspiracy, you're the one who needs to find the answers?

It's not my conspiracy either.

Or maybe Oswald ordered, received and used his rifle, how about that!

Can not be ruled out either. Too bad that the available evidence does not support such a conclusion.

Was Waldman involved in setting up Oswald? Of course he was, right Martin?

I doubt it. He was a VP with no direct knowledge about the transaction. All he did in his testimony is explain the purchase procedure and what the documents said without actually having any real knowledge about their authenticity.

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #129 on: May 30, 2019, 10:51:02 AM »
The paper bag was found to the left of where Oswald was sitting, which was nowhere near the shells in the following photo and this area seemed to be deemed not as important as the area where the actual shells that came from Oswald's rifle.



JohnM

Who found the bag John? When was it found?

 

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