W. Tracy Parnell= Bungling JFK Assassination Theories

[Tom Scully]

Tracy, you don't need me (or anyone else for that matter) to defend you but your work stands on its own. You document everything you claim or conclude, you have original or primary sources, and you lay it all out. People can consider it or reject it. Rightly so.

If these conspiracy believers truly want the "truth" out as they claim they should congratulate you and not criticize you. You've shown to me that the "two Oswalds" theory is groundless and that Veciana's allegations are also without merit. Others can reject that, of course; but they have to refute your evidence. And they can't.

Steve and Tracy, I hope you both accept I am trying to set the record(s) straight and do not wear a team jersey. Are either of you willing to meet me half-way?

Are either of you willing to at least concede that the Dial Ryder, Jack Bowen "record" rises to the level of a troubling concern, especially if the FBI was aware of much of what I posted above, as is RD Matthews's aunt, his mother's sister, Adelaide Senter Germany also happening to be the aunt of Mary Germany Bledsoe, as well as the following two, unrelated oddities?

http://archive.is/esTuB
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https://archive.is/o/esTuB/www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=95330&relPageId=42

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....and, of course, this?

Sure, Steve, you are curious, but about the "weightier" issues? IOW, are you too involved in convincing readers of the certainty of Oswald's Lone Nuttery? I try not to concern myself of the degree of his culpability or of John Armstrong's, Jim DiEugenio's, or Joan Mellen's, et al, accuracy, but try to travel wherever the road (research details) take me. I step on toes, I dig up enough to motivate me to buy new shovels.

Are the gullibilty of many CTs and of the authors they read, actually a greater detriment to enhancing the accuracy and depth of the historical record, than "McAdams level" tunnel vision, rigidity?

http://blog.donaldhcarpenter.com/2016/09/
September 2016 - Don's Blogblog.donaldhcarpenter.com › 2016/09
Sep 7, 2016 - Steve M. Galbraith wrote in with a comment back a few months ago and it was never forwarded directly to me. My apologies, Steve! Actually ..

https://jfkfacts.org/provocative-prolific-joan-mellen/#comment-869223
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https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Unredacted_-_Episode_1_-_Transcript.html
Unredacted Episode 1: Transcript of Interview with Joan Mellen
Joan Mellen is the author of A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK’s Assassination, and the Case That Should Have Changed History. This interview was conducted on 22 Feb 2006. Tyler Weaver provided the introduction, and the interview was conducted by Rex Bradford.
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REX: I – I think –

JOAN: – when Baldwin was present, he was a CIA asset, his brother worked for the International Trade Mart and Clay Shaw, David Baldwin, and these, these are CIA people….

Using only internet resources and in the course of a couple of weeks of part time research I shared in comments on this website, (see- https://jfkfacts.org/assassination/review/who-was-the-only-man-to-ever-face-legal-charges-in-jfks-assassination/#comment-856847 )
I found these details, not published or mentioned, ever, by Joan Mellen.

In the course of attempting to determine if my new fact checked research details were actually original, I found identical details, by author of a biography of Clay Shaw,
Donald H Carpenter.


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[Gerry Down]

I believe police officers Westbrook and Croy were involved in something quite underhanded.

Why because of the whole wallet thing? I'd say that was Tippits wallet.

[John Iacoletti]

[Jerry Freeman]

Why because of the whole wallet thing? I'd say that was Tippits wallet.

But that is just a guess huh?
No...I believe police officers Westbrook and Croy were involved in something quite underhanded because they very poorly accounted for their actions during the afternoon and there was no corroboration for Westbrook's ridiculous tale.....
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1022.msg44426.html#msg44426

[Tom Scully]

I've been researching Gordon Sutherland Campbell for the past ten years.... What do you want to know about Campbell, that does not result in less questions, but even more, instead?
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/10042-david-talbot-gordon-campbell/page/5/?tab=comments#comment-203159

I read this, dated in 2007, for the first time yesterday. It strikes me as unhinged, as far as the level of suspicion. How and why could or would the CIA "change the guy" living on a yacht in a rather small and obvious place, due to his sudden death in September, 1962, or in the alternative, "fake" his death through publicizing it, yet keep him on, in a hyper important operational role linked to assassinating both Kennedy brothers over a six year span following his announced, 1962 "death"?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=67123#relPageId=3&tab=page

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/9361-bradley-ayers-the-zenith-secret-is-out/?do=findComment&comment=401014
W. Tracy Parnell -Posted May 27, 2019
I'm interested in the opinions of the members here regarding Ayers' credibility. The theory of the 3 CIA men at the RFK assassination as postulated by Shane O'Sullivan seems to have been debunked. This theory relied in part on the identification of the men by Ayers (and a couple others) as Joannides, Morales and Campbell. O'Sullivan (who started all of this) himself later identified two of the men as Bulova watch executives who were attending a conference. And Campbell evidently died in 1962, so not only could he not have been at the Ambassador Hotel, but Ayers could not have met him in 1963 as he claims.

So, where are the members on this situation today? Does anyone here still believe the "3 CIA men at the Ambassador" theory? Did Ayers simply make up his Gordon Campbell remembrances? Is it possible someone else at JMWAVE used Campbell's name when working with Ayers and if so who? Ayers says Campbell was deputy COS but according to Morley he was not. But who was? How about Ayers' theory that Goldwater killed JFK?

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/9361-bradley-ayers-the-zenith-secret-is-out/?do=findComment&comment=401026

  On 5/27/2019 at 1:16 PM, Larry Hancock said:
At this point about the only thing I find useful in Ayers work are his descriptions of personnel interactions at WAVE related to his training assignment - including his description of Morales. In addition the more we are able to actually compare WAVE operational documents of the period in which he was assigned the more some of his descriptions of his own training of Cuban volunteers becomes questionable as well.  By the summer of 1963 WAVE was running so few missions that they had even laid off or detached many of the extensively trained and experienced paramilitary Cuban's that had been used in operations following the Bay of Pigs...and it would not be until Fall that JFK approved new sabotage missions. Bottom line is that I just don't find Ayers useful in the way I once hoped, even though I do have an autographed edition of his first book...sigh.

W. Tracy Parnell - Posted May 27, 2019
Thanks for the reply Larry and I agree that Ayers' recollections are suspect at this point. However, I am at a loss to explain his detailed descriptions of Campbell or the man he thought was Campbell. It is difficult to believe he made all of this up although it is certainly possible since he apparently needed money at different times in his life and admits to living out of his car at one point. I wonder if it is possible that his case officer might have used the recently deceased Campbell's name to deal with Ayers (under the "need to know" theory) since he was Army and not a CIA employee. BTW, any idea on who the deputy COS might be? The only references I can find on this state that Campbell was but Morley says (without attribution) that Campbell was not deputy COS.

And, what can we make of this?



This is "the son" also an army officer. Brad Ayers describes Campbell during his initial encounter as blonde, blue eyed, approx. age 40.
Campbell's 1942 military draft card indicates was blonde, blue eyed and born in 1905. "The son" was 31 in 1961, Campbell was 56, and his wife, Gertrude, who Ayers claimed he met, was 53 in 1962. So, we have these age contradictions to sort out, vs Ayers's recollections.

Unrelated Bulova Watch Co. executive, or..."Blonde", blue eyed, "Campbell"?, allegedly at Ambassador Hotel, June, 1968, six years after his death:
https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_The_BBCs_Flawed_RFK_Story.html


Update: Brad Ayers described Gordon Campbell as blonde, his 1942 draft card (back side of doc) describes brown hair color, and a "middle" wife...





https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/81504750/gordon-s-campbell


Who is "the son's" father? The mother was Edna Ingobarr Hill, according to the 1933 Florida marriage record, two years after "the son's" birth year.





Edna seems to have died because Carn Reid is described as widower in subsequent marriage record....

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/134511503/
FUNERAL NOTICES LT. COL. CARN R. REID (Ret) age 83, born In Philadelphia, Pa. November 5, 1911, schooled In Amerest, Mass. and University of Pa. as a Landscape Architect. Came to Florida in the mid 30's and worked for the Boynton Landscape Co. in Palm Beach. Landscaped master planning for Bessmer Properties In Miami. During World War D, he fought In New Guinea as an Engineer officer attached to the 41st Infantry Division in the jungles in the Pacific. He was recalled when the Korean War broke out. Served four yean In Japan as a Post Engineer in the metropolitan area of Tokyo. Also four years In France with J.C.A. (Joint Construction Agency). Retired from the Army Sept. 36, 1962 and came to Boynton Beach where he had lived 32 years. Went back to work for Boynton Landscape Co. His first project was the master planning of the Royal Palm Plaza in Boca Raton. Projects also included Quail Ridge, Piper's Landing In Stuart, and Wellington as well as many private homes In Jupiter Island and Village of Golf. In 1975 he was president of the Palm Beach Area Chapter of the Retired Officers Association and past President of the S.E. Chapter of 41st Infantry Div. 1991-1994. He was chairman of Its National Convention in 1993 in Orlando. He had also served as a chairman of the Community Appearance Board in Boynton Beach for more than 10 years. He is survived by his wife, Nina; two sons who served in Vietnam and four grandchildren. Visitation will be today April 14, 1995 from 2-4 and 6-8 with a prayer service at 7 p.m. at the SCOBEE-IRELAND-POTTER FUNERAL HOME. Funeral Services 10:30 a.m. Saturday, April 15, 1995 at St. Herman's Orthodox Church, Lake Worth. ...

[John Tonkovich]

I appreciate Mr. Parnell's work.

The Armstrong believers need to be challenged. Often. Repeatedly.

Thanks.

[W. Tracy Parnell]

John Tonkovich,
Thanks for your comment.

Tom Scully,
I was interested in Ayers mostly because of his claim that the Bishop sketch looked like Campbell. I have looked into Ayers and it seems to me that many of his claims are speculative. I think it is likely that he mistook someone else in the CIA for Campbell. This could have been a mistake on his part or a purposeful deception engineered by a CIA person (who may have pointed "Campbell" out to Ayers) for unknown reasons. The same thing happened to David Phillips according to his book. Someone told him a certain individual was Angleton and he went on believing that for some time before discovering it was untrue. In any case, thanks for the interesting information.

BTW, have you ever looked into David Phillips' family background? I know Linda Minor has done some work in this area, but I am more interested in his parents, brothers and his children than I am going way back in time like she did. I am also interested in his wives, particularly his short-lived first marriage to Joan (or Jean) Hildebrandt.