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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2019, 02:57:41 PM »
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?When Patrolman M. L. Baker identified Lee Harvey Oswald as the man that he stopped in the Texas School Book Depository Building, Patrolman Baker was in the Homicide Bureau giving an affidavit and Oswald was brought into the room to talk to some Secret Service man. When Baker saw Oswald he stated, ?That is the man I stopped on the 4th floor of the School Book Depository?.?

So We have Lee Oswald right there on front of Marrion Baker as Baker was preparing a sworn affidavit in which he describes the man that he saw walking away from him near the elevator on the dimly lit  3rd or fourth floor......Baker has Lee right there in front of him and yet he describes the man he saw as being in his thirties,  weighing 165 pounds, with dark hair.....  That's NOT the description of Lee Oswald the man who was right there in front of him.   

Fair point, I guess. Officer Baker did not amend his description to fit the man he now saw. There's also the fact that Officer Baker's affidavit says nothing about the man he encountered being the man he's just seen brought in by police.

Could be that Officer Baker told Det. Johnson something like, 'He looks a bit like the guy I searched by the stairs, but it's not him'...

Online Richard Smith

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2019, 04:10:14 PM »
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Let's start with this clip, taken in the squadroom at City Hall some 90 minutes after the assassination:



Question #1!

Given that Mr Lovelady clearly notices Mr Oswald being brought past him, why on earth will he----------in his WC testimony------------tell Mr Ball that he did not see Mr Oswald again that day from the time the Depository workers broke for lunch?

That question was preceded by a series of questions about Oswald in a work-related context at the TSBD including when Lovelady saw him there on the day of the assassination.  As a result, he did not take the question literally but within the context that he was being asked demonstrating that he had a functioning brain.   The WC was interested in how well he knew Oswald and what he observed about Oswald that day at work (where the crime was committed).  No one would care if he saw Oswald at the police station after the fact.

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Online Thomas Graves

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« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2019, 05:27:41 PM »
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That question was preceded by a series of questions about Oswald in a work-related context at the TSBD including when Lovelady saw him there on the day of the assassination.  As a result, he did not take the question literally but within the context that he was being asked demonstrating that he had a functioning brain.   The WC was interested in how well he knew Oswald and what he observed about Oswald that day at work (where the crime was committed).  No one would care if he saw Oswald at the police station after the fact.

Richard,

That's exactly what I was thinking the other day but was way too shy to mention.

(LOL)

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« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2019, 05:53:44 PM »
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That question was preceded by a series of questions about Oswald in a work-related context at the TSBD including when Lovelady saw him there on the day of the assassination.  As a result, he did not take the question literally but within the context that he was being asked demonstrating that he had a functioning brain.   The WC was interested in how well he knew Oswald and what he observed about Oswald that day at work (where the crime was committed).  No one would care if he saw Oswald at the police station after the fact.

How was Lovelady supposed to know what the WC was interested in?

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« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2019, 06:30:46 PM »
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How was Lovelady supposed to know what the WC was interested in?

Iacoletti,

Because in Lovelady's mind the parameters had been set by his being asked questions about Oswald's activities before the assassination.

D'oh

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« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2019, 07:02:00 PM »
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Because in Lovelady's mind the parameters had been set by his being asked questions about Oswald's activities before the assassination.

I am underwhelmed by your mindreading claims.

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2019, 07:13:27 PM »
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That question was preceded by a series of questions about Oswald in a work-related context at the TSBD including when Lovelady saw him there on the day of the assassination.  As a result, he did not take the question literally but within the context that he was being asked [...]

Yes, that is indeed a possibility  Thumb1:

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2019, 09:11:42 PM »
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We can't tell that from viewing that Gif.


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« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2019, 09:28:56 PM »
Friends, it has never been satisfactorily explained why Mr Lovelady's right side is dark in the Wiegman frames:





Basic geometry rules out a shadow cast by the west pillar at the front of the entranceway!

Note how the darkness 'follows' Mr Lovelady's right side as he goes from a higher to a lower step.

What on earth are we seeing here??

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« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2019, 09:34:56 PM »
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Well guess what Einstein, the ratio is way off. Standardised NTSC output image is 4:3. Whoever captured the video deliberately squashed the footage to make Lovelady appear thicker. Naughty naughty!





Here's a comparison that is centered directly on Lovelady.



JohnM

Thanks, John.

There goes the tinfoil hat "Neanderthal Theory".

-- MWT  ;)



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« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2019, 09:34:56 PM »

 

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