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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2019, 10:40:01 PM »
'the painting of Lee Oswald'

Oswald painted his own portrait. With too much input from Mommy Dearest. It took 24 years.
He also painted a landscape of Dealey Plaza which took but a few seconds
Also did a quick sketch of Kennedy, which resulted in a still life.

Then performed a snuff-art thing at the Tippit scene.
Good turnout I heard, but closed after the one show.
Tried to improvise a replay in an indoor venue, but was thwarted by fate.

All of which resulted in an overly-extended black comedy, manure-fuelled by cranky old conspiracy-mongers.

Maybe if you say it enough times, you?ll believe it.

Probably.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2019, 08:27:15 PM »
Maybe if you say it enough times, you?ll believe it.

Probably.

Point out why I need to believe something. Especially coming from you lot.

And I suggest you change 'enough times' to 'enough ways' since that's the first time I've expressed myself using Oswald-as-artist.

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2019, 01:28:06 AM »
Point out why I need to believe something. Especially coming from you lot.

I don?t know if you need to, but you do.

Probably.

Also, I?m not a lot.

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And I suggest you change 'enough times' to 'enough ways' since that's the first time I've expressed myself using Oswald-as-artist.

You?re always making little cutesy remarks about Oswald being guilty, rather than talking about why you think he?s guilty. This is nothing new.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2019, 10:07:30 PM »


I don?t know if you need to, but you do.
>>> Translation, please. And what do I need to believe, exactly? What you say?
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Probably.
>>> Ditto

Also, I?m not a lot.
>>> Huh?

You?re always making little cutesy remarks about Oswald being guilty, rather than talking about why you think he?s guilty. This is nothing new.
>>> 'Why can't you just open your eyes' goes the conspiracy-monger (and TAE) rant.


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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #54 on: May 07, 2019, 02:53:00 AM »
I don?t know if you need to, but you do.
>>> Translation, please. And what do I need to believe, exactly? What you say?

No, you believe that Oswald killed JFK. Probably. You just never articulate a reason why.

I don?t know if you need to believe that, but you do believe it. Probably.

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Also, I?m not a lot.
>>> Huh?

You keep referring to me as ?you lot?. I am not a lot.

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You?re always making little cutesy remarks about Oswald being guilty, rather than talking about why you think he?s guilty. This is nothing new.
>>> 'Why can't you just open your eyes' goes the conspiracy-monger (and TAE) rant.

Cite me ever using that phrase, here or there. Do you think believing things on faith is a virtue? Or do you need reasons to believe things? If you don?t, then why join a discussion forum? Just for the cutesy remarks?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #55 on: May 07, 2019, 09:36:35 AM »

No, you believe that Oswald killed JFK. Probably. You just never articulate a reason why
>>> You're awfully needy for a guy who claims nothing points to Oswald as killer

I don?t know if you need to believe that, but you do believe it. Probably.
>>> You continue to weaponize the word 'believe' from your TAE foxhole.

You keep referring to me as ?you lot?. I am not a lot.
>>> I know what I call you characters. You just don't appear to know what 'you lot' means.

Cite me ever using that phrase, here or there.
>>> Are you saying you had no input in analyzing the lyrics to the TAE website theme song?

"What will it take for you
To start opening your eyes"
--- Shelley Segal

Do you think believing things on faith is a virtue?
>>>  I personally do not take anything at face value. Do you take anomaly-hunting and seeing every last bit of minutae as sinister and loaded with malicious intent as a virtue?

Or do you need reasons to believe things? If you don?t, then why join a discussion forum? Just for the cutesy remarks?
>>> Your continued need to diminish my take on the events (and in the way I often express that take) is duly noted.
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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2019, 02:30:55 PM »
>>> You're awfully needy for a guy who claims nothing points to Oswald as killer

When did I claim that? You?re still batting .000.

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>>> You continue to weaponize the word 'believe' from your TAE foxhole.

No idea what you?re talking about. How is it a ?weapon??

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>>> I know what I call you characters. You just don't appear to know what 'you lot' means.

I know why you use the expression. It?s so you can claim someone said something that he never actually said. Like this for example:

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"What will it take for you
To start opening your eyes"
--- Shelley Segal

I?m not Shelley Segal, nor do I help her write her songs. So you can?t cite me ever saying that, then?

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>>>  I personally do not take anything at face value.

You mean other than the Warren Commission?

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Do you take anomaly-hunting and seeing every last bit of minutae as sinister and loaded with malicious intent as a virtue?

Why would you ask? Can you cite me ever saying that every last bit of minutae is sinister and loaded with malicious intent?

You can?t ignore anomalies and then claim to ?not take anything at face value?.

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>>> Your continued need to diminish my take on the events (and in the way I often express that take) is duly noted.

 :'(
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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #57 on: May 08, 2019, 12:38:59 AM »
How do we know that the whole story isn't something that Marina embroidered to please the interrogators who were threatening her if she didn't cooperate? ...

The story simply reeks of fabrication....because if Lee was sitting in a dark room as Marina  claimed.... it's highly unlikely that he would have been attempting to practice firing a rifle......    That story ranks right up there with Marina offering the explanation that she pushed the shutter button twice when she took the BY photo and created TWO photos without advancing the film....

How do we know that the whole story isn't something that Marina embroidered to please the interrogators who were threatening her if she didn't cooperate?

Nothing more than S P E C U L A T I O N.

Proof please of:

-- Embroidery (we don't even know if Marina could sew).

-- Interrogators threatening Marina.

Dark room: Bolt action practice eminently feasible.

Online John Iacoletti

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #58 on: May 08, 2019, 12:52:22 AM »
Calling something ?feasible? isn?t evidence that it?s actually true.

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Re: PorchGate: What Marina really heard
« Reply #59 on: May 08, 2019, 01:04:45 AM »
Calling something ?feasible? isn?t evidence that it?s actually true.

It's a "rebuttal" to your "assertion" about "highly unlikely". Your statement leaves open the possibility of the event occurring... no matter how "unlikely".

John: You failed to answer the questions I asked.

 

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