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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2019, 02:56:57 PM »
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It was almost 60 years ago. It really doesn?t matter anymore. Even if there was a conspiracy, everybody involved is dead or dying. It didn?t change anything and neither will ?knowing? the ?truth.? Historical events loose their impact as time progresses.

It didn?t change anything and neither will ?knowing? the ?truth.?

How do you know that "it didn't change anything"?

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2019, 02:59:02 PM »
And a whopping 61% said they do not believe the official conclusion of the Warren Commission that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in assassinating President John F. Kennedy, according to a 2013 Gallup poll. The number has not dropped below 50% since Gallup began polling on the subject just after the 1963 tragedy.

People don't believe the "official" explanations when they do NOT make sense. But not believing the official explanations does NOT prove what DID happen.

So to SOLVE the JFK assassination "mystery", you MUST be able to identify the valid evidence and reject the invalid evidence.

For example, the JFK assassination evidence has evidence wich indicates there was a LARGE exit wound in the right posterior of JFK's head.  Other "evidence" clearly shows there was NO large exit wound in the back of JFK's head.  The multi-million dollar question is WHICH set of evidence is correct?  And which is invalid?  Were these conflicts caused by simple mistakes OR was a large amount of invalid evidence forged?



To answer these questions correctly is NOT conceptually difficult.  If you have a grasp of basic high school level math, you can understand HOW to answer these questions correctly.  Once you have done that, you can see how easily the JFK assassination can be solved.

Virtually ALL of the witnesses in Dallas at Parkland....( about thirty people) said that JFK had a huge hole in the back of his skull.....


You're right, the case is no big mystery....But it requires guts to face the truth...  And that's the problem.    Far too many cannot accept the truth, and would rather accept a lie .....

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2019, 03:12:07 PM »
It didn?t change anything and neither will ?knowing? the ?truth.?

How do you know that "it didn't change anything"?

Actually the coup d e'tat changed the course of history....   I doubt that nearly 60,000 young Americans would have been killed in Vietnam if JFK had not been murdered....   IMO 60,000 young men is significant.... And that's only one of the things that resulted from of the murder....

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
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Offline Bill Charleston

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2019, 10:58:36 PM »
Virtually ALL of the witnesses in Dallas at Parkland....( about thirty people) said that JFK had a huge hole in the back of his skull.....


You're right, the case is no big mystery....But it requires guts to face the truth...  And that's the problem.    Far too many cannot accept the truth, and would rather accept a lie .....

Virtually ALL of the witnesses at Parkland:



You don't have to look at only Parkland to find witnesses who said there was a MASSIVE hole in the right posterior of JFK's head.  Some of the witnesses shown above were in Dealey Plaza, some at Parkland and some at Bethesda.

What would be the odds that so many witnesses who saw JFK's head would say that there was a large hole in the rear of it wasn't actually there?  The obvious answer is that the odds of so many people who never talked with each other describing similar things would NEVER be expected to happen.

At this point it would seem to me that no reasonable person would believe that a conspiracy didn't exist. 

The US government's version of the condition of the back of JFK's head is based in large part on the autopsy information that was developed at Bethesda.



The scenario of a small entrance wound in the rear of JFK's head as shown on the left of the image was always controlled by the US gov't.  Because all of the medical personnel at Bethesda were initially given orders that they couldn't talk about the case, it shows that the US gov't could control what people said and what information was shown to the public.  In other words, it would have been possible for the US gov't to have FORGED/ALTERED/DESTROYED evidence as necessary to show a small bullet hole instead of the large wound that was actually there.

At this point, it is easy to ask a few questions:

1.  WHO had the power to organize a team to kill the President of the United States?

2.  WHO had the power to "fix" the investiation so that the autopsy photographs could be forged to hide the truth?  (The actual photographs were NOT shown until 1988 on the 25th anniversary of the brutal murder)

https://vimeo.com/130545091  about time 29 the documentary talks about the doctors finally sllowed to review the autopsy photographs

3.  What would be the most likely motive for the US gov't to have forged autopsy information?  The answer to that question is rather easy.

Getting back on topic to this thread, no reasonable person who has reviewed the JFK assassination information about the autopsy should be able to say CONSPIRACY THEORY.  Instead, the most likely answer at this point is CONSPIRACY FACT!

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2019, 11:54:51 PM »
Virtually ALL of the witnesses at Parkland:



You don't have to look at only Parkland to find witnesses who said there was a MASSIVE hole in the right posterior of JFK's head.  Some of the witnesses shown above were in Dealey Plaza, some at Parkland and some at Bethesda.

What would be the odds that so many witnesses who saw JFK's head would say that there was a large hole in the rear of it wasn't actually there?  The obvious answer is that the odds of so many people who never talked with each other describing similar things would NEVER be expected to happen.

At this point it would seem to me that no reasonable person would believe that a conspiracy didn't exist. 

The US government's version of the condition of the back of JFK's head is based in large part on the autopsy information that was developed at Bethesda.



The scenario of a small entrance wound in the rear of JFK's head as shown on the left of the image was always controlled by the US gov't.  Because all of the medical personnel at Bethesda were initially given orders that they couldn't talk about the case, it shows that the US gov't could control what people said and what information was shown to the public.  In other words, it would have been possible for the US gov't to have FORGED/ALTERED/DESTROYED evidence as necessary to show a small bullet hole instead of the large wound that was actually there.

At this point, it is easy to ask a few questions:

1.  WHO had the power to organize a team to kill the President of the United States?

2.  WHO had the power to "fix" the investiation so that the autopsy photographs could be forged to hide the truth?  (The actual photographs were NOT shown until 1988 on the 25th anniversary of the brutal murder)

https://vimeo.com/130545091  about time 29 the documentary talks about the doctors finally sllowed to review the autopsy photographs

3.  What would be the most likely motive for the US gov't to have forged autopsy information?  The answer to that question is rather easy.

Getting back on topic to this thread, no reasonable person who has reviewed the JFK assassination information about the autopsy should be able to say CONSPIRACY THEORY.  Instead, the most likely answer at this point is CONSPIRACY FACT!

These BOH eyewitnesses are not consistent.



The first day DP eyewitnesses are all consistent because they can only honestly say what they saw.



Many eyewitnesses agree 100% with the first day DP eyewitnesses, the unaltered Zapruder film, the X rays, the autopsy photos, etc..



A lot of the autopsy photos were taken in stereo pairs which eliminates any photographic manipulation.



JohnM

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2019, 12:00:15 AM »
The FBI were the "cleaners" of the coup and they focused on pushing the LNer narrative and erased any contradictions. They hoped JFK was killed before reaching the turkey shoot point so the umbrella man wouldn't have to signal Greer to slow down the limo so they could finish him off.

The FBI's main objectives were to erase all signs of shots from the front and side and speeding up the limo in the Z-film. They also had to deal with near simultaneous blow-outs at JFK's right temple and the back of his head, which occurred when Greer slowed down the limo at the turkey shoot point where several near simultaneous shots sounded like a single shot from Oswald.

One of the things that was altered in the Z-film was the gaping hole in the back of JFK's head. Especially frame 323:



If you look closely there is a blacked out spot which covers the occipital region of JFK's head . The following graphic shows the trajectory of the bullet that caused all that damage:



There is the obvious postmortem surgery to hide the entrance wound:



Then there is the simultaneous shot from the side with a frangible bullet that created JFK's right temple blow-out:



A shooter from the 6th floor of the TSBD couldn't possibly have created all these wounds with a single FMJ bullet.

Which leads us inexorably to the conclusion that ALL the autopsy photos were BS, which includes this one:



Good thing for the LNers this autopsy photo is fake because there is no trajectory from the TSBD into JFK's back, out his throat and into Conally's armpit. Otherwise, I challenge the LNers (especially Mytton) to demonstrate one. Until then, the best hypothesis is that the autopsy photos were faked, the Z-film was edited and the JFK assassination was a coup d'etat. Show me otherwise.

 
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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2019, 12:09:57 AM »
The FBI were the "cleaners" of the coup and they focused on pushing the LNer narrative and erased any contradictions. They hoped JFK was killed before reaching the turkey shoot point so the umbrella man wouldn't have to signal Greer to slow down the limo so they could finish him off.

The FBI's main objectives were to erase all signs of shots from the front and side and speeding up the limo in the Z-film. They also had to deal with near simultaneous blow-outs at JFK's right temple and the back of his head, which occurred when Greer slowed down the limo at the turkey shoot point where several near simultaneous shots sounded like a single shot from Oswald.

One of the things that was altered in the Z-film was the gaping hole in the back of JFK's head. Especially frame 323:



If you look closely there is a blacked out spot which covers the occipital region of JFK's head . The following graphic shows the trajectory of the bullet that caused all that damage:



There is the obvious postmortem surgery to hide the entrance wound:



Then there is the simultaneous shot from the side with a frangible bullet that created JFK's right temple blow-out:



A shooter from the 6th floor of the TSBD couldn't possibly have created all these wounds with a single FMJ bullet.

Which leads us inexorably to the conclusion that ALL the autopsy photos were BS, which includes this one:



Good thing for the LNers this autopsy photo is fake because there is no trajectory from the TSBD into JFK's back and out his throat in into Conally's armpit. Otherwise, I challenge the LNers to demonstrate one. Until then, the best hypothesis is that the autopsy photos were faked, the Z-film was edited and the JFK assassination was a coup coup d'etat. Show me otherwise.

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signal Greer to slow down the limo

Yeah sure, Greer knew that he was driving into a turkey shoot and fully accepted the mission, how absurd!

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The FBI's main objectives were to erase all signs of shots from the front and side and speeding up the limo in the Z-film.

How pray tell did they "speed" up the Limo in the Zapruder film? This will be good!

And as for the rest, typical Trojan BS, what a clown!

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2019, 12:26:58 AM »
Yeah sure, Greer knew that he was driving into a turkey shoot and fully accepted the mission, how absurd!

You don't think Greer was confident that sharpshooters wouldn't kill him with Connally as a buffer?

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How pray tell did they "speed" up the Limo in the Zapruder film? This will be good!

You actually know squat about film editing, don't you?

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And as for the rest, typical Trojan BS, what a clown!

Still waiting for your 2 laser re-enactment of the magic bullet Myttonhead. I know you've done it, so where's the beef?  :D