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Offline Mike Orr

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Talk of the ' Head Piece ' being in the hand of a person with a white shirt on could have possibly been a ' hair piece ' if the man who was running away was David W. Ferrie who was said to have been pictured with a rifle shooting at JFK . We know the so called picture of David Ferrie with a white shirt on , shooting at JFK , wore a hair piece !

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Offline John Tonkovich

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The Commission was not planning on calling Ike Altgens. Only after some bad press about this "goof" was Mr. Altgens summoned,  for a late July appearance.

And, yes, there was a good reason for trying to keep his testimony from being heard.

Does anyone know why?

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Price's description puts me in mind of one the men from the overpass running over to the parking lot.





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Offline Tim Nickerson

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The Commission was not planning on calling Ike Altgens. Only after some bad press about this "goof" was Mr. Altgens summoned,  for a late July appearance.

And, yes, there was a good reason for trying to keep his testimony from being heard.

Does anyone know why?

I don't know why. Please enlighten me.

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I don't know why. Please enlighten me.

He was certainly one of the best witnesses.
That's him in Z333 to about Z358ish, camera at the ready.
His pictures were on the "wire" soon after.
Altgens stated that he was "about" 15ft away from  the President" when JFK was hit in the head with the last shot. 
Since the street is about 30feet wide, that puts JFK directly opposite Altgens, who is standing facing the street, camera prefocused to 15 ft, about to snap the shutter.
And thats about Z345 to Z350, which certainly throws a monkey wrench in the whole official shooting sequence.
Remember, also, that in 64, we are ten plus years away from Zfilm release.
The Commitee first tried to ignore Altgens, then reluctantly took his testimony, and filed it away, never knowing that Altgens was a vital "supporting actor" in the Zapruder cinema production.








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Offline Gary Craig

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Has anyone on here ever compiled a list or register of witnesses that were never called by the Warren Commission to give testimony? Or is such a list available on the net? Does anyone have any good links on this subject? Thank you

IMO Having the autopsy doctors testify without the autopsy photos, x-rays etc. was critical for the coverup and more essential to it's continuation than the omission of testimony from witnesses we basically now know the content of.

The photos of the entrance wound in the back of JFK's skull, slightly above and slightly to the right of the EOP, requested by the autopsy doctors at autopsy, were noticed missing by Dr. Fink in a January 1967 review of the materials in the Archive.

Very convenient when LBJ's Clark Panel '67 report moved that entrance wound 4 inches up on JFK's skull in response to critics pointing out a EOP wound didn't jibe with a shot from the 6th floor SE corner of the TSBD.

A photo of the inside of JFK's right lung was also noticed missing from the Archive by the Clark Panel. That photo could have shown the direction and path of the wound to JFK's back and throat.

Very convenient also since Jerry Ford had changed the WCR final draft describing it's location from entering JFK's back to entering the back of his neck.

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He was certainly one of the best witnesses.
That's him in Z333 to about Z358ish, camera at the ready.
His pictures were on the "wire" soon after.
Altgens stated that he was "about" 15ft away from  the President" when JFK was hit in the head with the last shot. 
Since the street is about 30feet wide, that puts JFK directly opposite Altgens, who is standing facing the street, camera prefocused to 15 ft, about to snap the shutter.
And thats about Z345 to Z350, which certainly throws a monkey wrench in the whole official shooting sequence.
Remember, also, that in 64, we are ten plus years away from Zfilm release.
The Commitee first tried to ignore Altgens, then reluctantly took his testimony, and filed it away, never knowing that Altgens was a vital "supporting actor" in the Zapruder cinema production.

"There was not another shot fired after the President was struck in the head. That was the last shot--that much I will say with a great degree of certainty."

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm

There was only one head shot. Altgens only described one head shot. When he said that he was 15 feet away at the time, he was wrong.


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Offline John Tonkovich

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"There was not another shot fired after the President was struck in the head. That was the last shot--that much I will say with a great degree of certainty."

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm

There was only one head shot. Altgens only described one head shot. When he said that he was 15 feet away at the time, he was wrong.
Z 349 he's kind of hard to miss.
Was about to press the shutter when the last shot hit the president.
Hit by splatter.
Prefocused to 15 ft. Half the width of the street.

There were two head shots.
Three hits in total.
All from the rear.