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Online Peter Kleinschmidt

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Thank you all for your helpful replies and links (apart from Mr Kleindick). Much appreciated!
In your previous post, you thanked me, but now you exclude me from any appreciation.  Unable to make up your mind? The late Gary Mack who was the curator at the 6th-floor museum was like that. You should apply for a lone nut job, you would fit right in.

Offline Lee Wotton

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Thank you Gary, was Newman called to testify to the WC? Also was Roger Craig called to testify or Victoria Adams?

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Thank you Gary, was Newman called to testify to the WC? Also was Roger Craig called to testify or Victoria Adams?
Here you go and try not to smoke too much of the good stuff, I believe it is impairing you

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/wit.htm

Offline Jerry Freeman

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How about people.. called before the Warren Commission- that were witnesses to absolutely nothing?

Online Peter Kleinschmidt

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How about people.. called before the Warren Commission- that were witnesses to absolutely nothing?
That would be almost every witness they called all to make the WC report fat there was even talk about letting witnesses tip a few cocktails back to stretch testimony out and making the report extra fat.

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Quote from: Lee Wotton on April 09, 2019, 12:26:42 PM
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Thank you Gary, was Newman called to testify to the WC? Also was Roger Craig called to testify or Victoria Adams?
Here you go and try not to smoke too much of the good stuff, I believe it is impairing you
 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/wit.htm
What Ms Adams had to say..the Commissioners did not wish to hear...
 
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Mr. BELIN - All right.
Miss ADAMS - And from our vantage point we were able to see what the President's wife was wearing, the roses in the car, and things that would attract men's attention. Then we heard---then we were obstructed from the view.
Mr. BELIN - By what?
Miss ADAMS - A tree and we heard a shot, and it was a pause, and then a second shot, and then a third shot.
It sounded like a firecracker or a cannon at a football game, it seemed as if it came from the right below rather than from the left above.
IOW the pergola area.

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Offline Jerry Organ

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The 1965 book "The Unanswered Questions About President's Assassination" by Sylvan Fox was one of the most widely-distributed books critical of the WC.

    "With Mrs. Hill at the time of the shooting was a friend of hers, Mary Moorman.
     Mrs. Moorman was in the same place at the same time. But she was never
     summoned to testify before the Warren Commission.
          Nor was Charles Drehm [sic], a Dallas carpet salesman who told the Dallas
     Times Herald he was about 10 feet from the President's car at the moment of
     the shooting. Drehm, the Times Herald said, "seemed to think the shots came
     from in front of or beside the President."
          Nor did the Commission call O.V. Campbell, the vice president of the book
     depository, who was standing in front of the building with Roy Truly, the
     depository, at the time of the assassination. Campbell was quoted in the
     Dallas Morning News as saying he "ran towards a grassy knoll west of the
     building" because he thought the shots were coming from there.
          Nor did the Commission call four women employed by the Dallas Morning
     News who were on the grassy knoll itself. One of the four, Mary Woodward,
     wrote an eyewitness account of the assassination for the Morning News.
     She said she and her three companions were sitting on the knoll overlooking
     Elm Street when they heard "a horrible, ear-shattering noise coming from\
     behind us and a little to the right."

Readers are left with the impression that witnesses were totally ignored by the Commission.

Moorman: Affidavit Nov. 22, 1963; FBI Report Nov. 23, 1963
           ( According to Wikipedia: "She was called by the Warren Commission to
             testify, but due to a sprained ankle, she was unable to be questioned." )

Brehm: FBI Report, Nov. 25, 1963
           ( "He also stated that it seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came
             from one of two buildings back at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets." )

Campbell: FBI Reports Nov. 24 and 28, 1963
          ( "At this time, he heard a loud report, which at first he considered to be a
             fire cracker or some object set off by a crank and believed the noise
             came from away from his building. This illusion, he explained, may have
             been due to the sound bouncing off the building and other objects in the
             vicinity. After hearing two more such reports, he realized they must have
             been rifle shots and since President KENNEDY's car had advanced just
             out of his vision, he went forward a few feet to observe this automobile" )

Mary Woodward: FBI Report Dec. 7, 1963
          ( "She stated that her first reaction was that the shots had been fired from
             above her head and from possibly behind her. Her next reaction was that
             the shots might have come from the overpass which was to her right.
             She stated, however, because of the loud echo, she could not say where
             the shots had come from, other than they had come from above her head.")



Mary Woodward is the smiling light-haired woman above the limousine's
flag staff in the Altgens photograph, taken during the shooting.
Above and behind Woodward is the Depository and Elm Street extension.
Woodward was standing on the sidewalk, not sitting on the knoll, per Fox.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2020, 12:50:36 AM by Jerry Organ »

Online Peter Kleinschmidt

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The 1965 book "The Unanswered Questions About President's Assassination" by Sylvan Fox was one of the most widely-distributed books critical of the WC.

    "With Mrs. Hill at the time of the shooting was a friend of hers, Mary Moorman.
     Mrs. Moorman was in the same place at the same time. But she was never
     summoned to testify before the Warren Commission.
        Nor was Charles Drehm [sic], a Dallas carpet salesman who told the Dallas
     Times Herald he was about 10 feet from the President's car at the moment of
     the shooting. Drehm, the Times Herald said, "seemed to think the shots came
     from in front of or beside the President."
        Nor did the Commission call O.V. Campbell, the vice president of the book
     depository, who was standing in front of the building with Roy Truly, the
     depository, at the time of the assassination. Campbell was quoted in the
     Dallas Morning News as saying he "ran towards a grassy knoll west of the
     building" because he thought the shots were coming from there.
        Nor did the Commission call four women employed by the Dallas Morning
     News who were on the grassy knoll itself. One of the four, Mary Woodward,
     wrote an eyewitness account of the assassination for the Morning News.
     She said she and her three companions were sitting on the knoll overlooking
     Elm Street when they heard "a horrible, ear-shattering noise coming from\
     behind us and a little to the right."

Readers are left with the impression that witnesses were totally ignored by the Commission.

Moorman: Affidavit Nov. 22, 1963; FBI Report Nov. 23, 1963
           ( According to Wikipedia: "She was called by the Warren Commission to
             testify, but due to a sprained ankle, she was unable to be questioned." )

Brehm: FBI Report, Nov. 25, 1963
           ( "He also stated that it seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came
             from one of two buildings back at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets." )

Campbell: FBI Reports Nov. 24 and 28, 1963
          ( "At this time, he heard a loud report, which at first he considered to be a
             fire cracker or some object set off by a crank and believed the noise
             came from away from his building. This illusion, he explained, may have
             been due to the sound bouncing off the building and other objects in the
             vicinity. After hearing two more such reports, he realized they must have
             been rifle shots and since President KENNEDY's car had advanced just
             out of his vision, he went forward a few feet to observe this automobile" )

Mary Woodward: FBI Report Dec. 7, 1963
          ( Woodward was standing on the sidewalk, not sitting on the knoll. )


Yes, they were totally ignored by the Warren Commission. And you highlighting some examples does nothing?

You selectively throw in front--- the sprained ankle excuse.
Like  Moorman notified the WC "I have a sprained ankle, I can't walk therefore I can't talk"   
and the WC responded "You get your ass down here right now young lady"

Here you go again trying to twist reality trying to make the unreasonable WC into the make-believe reasonable WC

I don't think you ever question anything.



Offline Mike Orr

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It seems like there was a selection of witnesses who had their observations and then people like the Newmans who were not called to testify . They say that a lawyer won't ask a question to a witness unless they already know the answer and of course there are those lawyers who just don't ask the pertinent question that would or should clear up a situation . The Parkland Doctors and the Bethesda Dr's would have made for somewhat of a good debate with them all sitting across from each other telling what they saw concerning the wounds on JFK . It's like Jackie Kennedy talking about what happened that day but her remarks about the head wounds on JFK were still put away for years to come until just about all of us are dead .

 

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