Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Author Topic: Photographic Proof John Templin's Standing Next To "Glasses Woman" In Betzner-3  (Read 2941 times)

Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Not This Member!
    Thumbs Up
    This Member Has Made
    A Forum Donation!

  • Posts: 5075
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If Altgens aimed his camera slightly more left we would have a high quality crisp image of Calvery, Hicks, Reed, and Westbrook in a row...

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

JFK Assassination Forum


Online Thomas Graves

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1115
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

Iacoletti,

No, but you wouldn't be here effing-up gullible newbies, those who can't see very well, and even "established researchers" who ... uhh ... can't  think very critically.

-- MWT   ;)
« Last Edit: April 15, 2019, 12:41:27 AM by Thomas Graves »

Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Not This Member!
    Thumbs Up
    This Member Has Made
    A Forum Donation!

  • Posts: 5075
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
No, but you wouldn't be here effing-up gullible newbies, those who can't see very well, and even "established researchers" who ... uhh ... can't  think very critically.

Such as yourself?

JFK Assassination Forum


Online Brian Doyle

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2400

And here we are at the infantile naysaying tit for tat that Iacoletti always tries to get the thread down to...Meanwhile Iacoletti has not been forced to answer that the man Graves is referencing IS Templin...Or that Tall Woman IS Calvery and does have glasses...

Since Holt doesn't have glasses that forces Tall Woman to be Calvery...This is what Iacoletti is trying to get the thread away from because he doesn't want to account for attacking good evidence... 

Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Not This Member!
    Thumbs Up
    This Member Has Made
    A Forum Donation!

  • Posts: 5075
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
And here we are at the infantile naysaying tit for tat that Iacoletti always tries to get the thread down to...Meanwhile Iacoletti has not been forced to answer that the man Graves is referencing IS Templin...Or that Tall Woman IS Calvery and does have glasses...

Because Graves says so?  :D

Quote
Since Holt doesn't have glasses that forces Tall Woman to be Calvery.

Don?t be absurd. Nothing forces tall woman to be Calvery.

JFK Assassination Forum


Online Thomas Graves

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1115
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Because Graves says so?  :D

Iacoletti,

John Templin, Ernest Brandt, Jean Newman, and June Dishong are four of the very few people, along with A. J. Millican and journalists Aurelia Lorenzo, Mary Woodward, Ann Donaldson, and Maggie Brown, and, down the street, the Newmans and the Chisms, that Robin Unger and (in his early map) Don Roberdeau actually got right on the north side of Elm Street sidewalk.  So I'm not the only one who says Templin can be seen standing next to your "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3, and who says Brandt can be seen standing on the other side of Templin in Willis-5.

-- MWT   ;)
« Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 06:01:55 AM by Thomas Graves »

Online Brian Doyle

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2400
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Don?t be absurd. Nothing forces tall woman to be Calvery.


Nothing except all the evidence you've been naysaying in contempt and the fact you can't show Calvery anywhere else...You know that's Calvery as well as I do...

JFK Assassination Forum


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Not This Member!
    Thumbs Up
    This Member Has Made
    A Forum Donation!

  • Posts: 5075
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Iacoletti,

You don't need to put my name in every post.

Quote
John Templin, Ernest Brandt, Jean Newman, and June Dishong are four of the very few people, along with A. J. Millican and journalists Aurelia Lorenzo, Mary Woodward, Ann Donaldson, and Maggie Brown, and, down the street, the Newmans and the Chisms, that Robin Unger and (in his early map) Don Roberdeau actually got right on the north side of Elm Street sidewalk.

Your assessment on what they got right or wrong means absolutely nothing.

JFK Assassination Forum


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Not This Member!
    Thumbs Up
    This Member Has Made
    A Forum Donation!

  • Posts: 5075
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Nothing except all the evidence you've been naysaying in contempt and the fact you can't show Calvery anywhere else...You know that's Calvery as well as I do...

You can't show that it's Calvery.  I don't have to show that she is somewhere else.  You have the burden of proof.

Note that I said proof -- not stomping your feet and insisting you are right over and over.

Online Thomas Graves

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1115
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
John Iacoletti denies that it can be proved from the photos and films that his "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3 is  Big-Tall, Black-Blouse And Black-Headscarf-Wearing Woman (Gloria Calvery) in the Zapruder film.

However ...

If he were to were to read Dallas News' November 2012 article You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login about JFK assassination witnesses Ernest Brandt and John Templin, ...

... and if he were to look at Robin Unger's infamous yellow-labeled Zapruder-151 frame and at Don Roberdeau's Map and find in them (gasp ... correctly-labeled!) Ernest Brand standing next to his (gasp ... correctly labeled!) 21 year-old friend John Templin, ...

... and if he were to look at the people, cars, and background in Betzner-3 and compare them with the people, cars, and background in Willis-5, ...

... Scrolling down until he finds said photos, and then enlarge them to his heart's content --
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

... taking special care to notice that John Templin is in both Betzner-3 and Willis-5), ...

... and if he were to take into consideration the fact that Hugh Betzner -- whose "Betzner-3" was taken simultaneously with Z-187 and 0.874/second before "Willis-5" -- was standing on the other side of Elm Street, about 30 feet behind and a little to the left of Phil Willis (per Zapruder's LOS at Z-187) on the other side of Elm Street, ...

... and if he were to realize that Robin Unger's seriously mislabeled Zapruder frame is Z-151, and that Betzner-3 was taken simultaneously with Zapruder-187, and that Willis-5 was taken simultaneously with Zapruder-202, ...

... and if he were to realize that Abraham Zapruder can be seen standing on his pedestal and very near the L-R center point of both Willis-3 and Betzner-5 ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ; ignore the red circle around so-called Black Dog Man in Willis-5), ...

... and if he were to realize that both Phil Willis and Hugh Betzner are visible in the background of Unger's yellow-labeled Z-151 frame (or at least in a clearer frame near it), ...

... well gosh, taking all of the above together (I mean he IS capable of doing that sort of thing, isn't he?), ...

... he'd realize that fedora-wearing trilby-wearing Ernest Brandt can be seen standing next to John Templin in Willis-5, and that John Templin can be seen standing next to your "Glasses Woman" (Gloria Calvery) in Betzner-3.

-- MWT  :)

edited and bumped
« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 05:27:33 PM by Thomas Graves »

JFK Assassination Forum


 

Mobile View