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Author Topic: Photographic Proof John Templin's Standing Next To "Glasses Woman" In Betzner-3  (Read 2019 times)

Online Thomas Graves

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You keep forgetting that Karen Westbrook:

- was there
- was good friends with Gloria Calvery and saw her every day
- also identified herself from the front in Willis 5 (or as you call it "Willis 3")

On the other hand, your only source regarding the identification of Gloria Calvery in Zapruder is:


Yeah, Karen Westbrook really "nailed it," didn't she?

Uhh ... to smiling and nodding (and prompting?) STEPHEN Fagin, while looking at "herself" from behind in the Zapruder frame and while "she" was wearing a hair-hiding headscarf and a figure-hiding raincoat, some fifty-four years after-the-fact.

Oh yeah, and from the minuscule Willis-5 Willis-3 images of, in reality, blue-headscarf-wearing Sharron Simmons, strawberry blondish-haired Gloria Holt, and self-described American Indian, Stella Mae Jacob.

In that equally great identification of herself in Willis-5 Willis-3, she was obviously confusing the very light blue headscarf she wore that day with Sharron Simmons' light blue one.

D'oh

-- MWT  ;)

PS  Westbrook remembered her old buddy Gloria Calvery so incredibly well that she referred to her as "Gloria Calvert" (sic) at least once in that interview, IIRC.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2019, 11:58:10 PM by Thomas Graves »

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Oh yeah, and from the minuscule Willis-5 Willis-3 images of, in reality, blue-headscarf-wearing Sharron Simmons, strawberry blondish-haired Gloria Holt, and self-described American Indian, Stella Mae Jacob.

It's not just people's names you chronically get wrong.  You can only see "blue-scarf-lady" in Willis FIVE.  And Simmons is SHARON.

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In that equally great identification of herself in Willis-5 Willis-3, she was obviously confusing the very light blue headscarf she wore that day with Sharron Simmons' light blue one.

Too bad you don't actually know what color scarf Simmons was wearing.  Or how "light" Westbrook's scarf was.  You're just making it all up.

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PS  Westbrook remembered her old buddy Gloria Calvery so incredibly well that she referred to her as "Gloria Calvert" (sic) at least once in that interview, IIRC.

Says the guy who knows these people so well that he calls them John Fagin, Sharron Simmons, etc.

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It's not just people's names you chronically get wrong.  You can only see "blue-scarf-lady" in Willis FIVE.  And Simmons is SHARON.

Too bad you don't actually know what color scarf Simmons was wearing.  Or how "light" Westbrook's scarf was.  You're just making it all up.

Says the guy who knows these people so well that he calls them John Fagin, Sharron Simmons, etc.

Iacoletti,

Apples and Oranges, dude.

Mountains out of molehills.

But thanks for implying that my... gasp ... horrendous mistakes are as momentous (or as "grave," if you will) as Karen Westbrook's all-time xxxx-up in her Sixth Floor Museum interview has turned out to be.

-- MWT   ;)

Speaking of mistakes, please tell us once again why you changed your mind about "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3.

"Insufficient evidence upon blow-up," or some such thing?

LOL
« Last Edit: April 12, 2019, 03:25:32 AM by Thomas Graves »

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Iacoletti,

You donít need to put my name in every post.

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But thanks for implying that my... gasp ... horrendous mistakes are as momentous (or as "grave," if you will) as Karen Westbrook's all-time xxxx-up in her Sixth Floor Museum interview has turned out to be.

Too bad you canít actually show that she xxxxed-up and not you. Again. Thatís gotta hurt.

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Speaking of mistakes, please tell us once again why you changed your mind about "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3.

Maybe you should just start 5 new threads about it.

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What "blonde hair"?


You can't get away with that Iacoletti...You are playing dumb and pretending you can't see the difference in color of the hair on the woman Westbrook told Fagin was Calvery and the hair on Calvery in the Christmas photos...The middle woman is un-scarfed and you can see her hair...It is clearly blonde and is clearly not the bright red hair you can see on Calvery in the Christmas photos...

You're ignoring/denying provable evidence and being allowed to get away with it...



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Offline John Iacoletti

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You can't get away with that Iacoletti...You are playing dumb and pretending you can't see the difference in color of the hair on the woman Westbrook told Fagin was Calvery and the hair on Calvery in the Christmas photos..

Sheís standing outside in direct sunlight. Of course the color looks different. Besides the Christmas photos are a month later.

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The middle woman is un-scarfed and you can see her hair...It is clearly blonde

Itís not clearly blonde, itís red.

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It can be seen better in the brownies photo...

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Online Thomas Graves

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Maybe you should just start 5 new threads about it.

Iacoletti,

I won't have to start five new threads about your disingenousness regarding "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3 if you'll confess to the following:

1)  In your desperation to not have to follow my lead by (gasp) referring to her as "black blouse - black headscarf woman" (or some-such thing), and your "fortuitously" noticing that she was possibly wearing glasses in that photo, and (hooray!) confirming for yourself by enlarging her face a bit that she really was wearing glasses ...


2) ... and rightly proceeding to refer to her as "Glasses Woman" ...

3) ...  you belatedly realized (or remembered?) that Gloria Calvery is wearing glasses like that in all of the photos we have of her ...

4) ... and so you abruptly started referring to her as "Tall Woman," instead.

5)  Then, upon being "called out" for having done so, ...

7)  ... you disingenuously over-enlarged her face to the point of extreme blurriness ...

6)  ... and posted said blurry, blown-up crop ...

7)  ... and proclaimed (like the carnival barker that you are), "Looky, looky, looky, folks!  She's not wearing glasses -- she just has a pet dragonfly and wears way too much mascara!"

LOL

-- MWT   ;)
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If Altgens aimed his camera slightly more left we would have a high quality crisp image of Calvery, Hicks, Reed, and Westbrook in a row...

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Iacoletti,

You donít need to put my name in every post.

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1)  In your desperation to not have to follow my lead by (gasp) referring to her as "black blouse - black headscarf woman" (or some-such thing),

I donít give a damn what you call her.

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and your "fortuitously" noticing that she was possibly wearing glasses in that photo, and (hooray!) confirming for yourself by enlarging her face a bit that she really was wearing glasses ...

Nope. I thought she was wearing glasses until I enlarged the photo, at which point I couldnít tell if she was or not.