Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2019, 01:57:52 PM »
I see the posts as a group centered on 13'. But OK.

Map says the wooden posts are 9 1/2" square.



If the wooden pillars are six inches square, then that makes the light switches on the one shown above very small, about 1.3 x 2.5 inches.

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

    "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

Anything that goes against the WCR, I guess. It's just a good-faith report by some old statesmen and young ambitious attorneys; it did nothing to you.

Thank you for pointing out that the pillars are 9.5 square.....  That's non dimensional, by today's standards but  maybe at the tim the TSBD was built they had different standards.

So that makes the box that is abutted to that post 19" long..... I thought that it was 16 inches......So we have the place between the pillar and the box at pillar at 13 feet ( south side of the pillar ) ..... That would mean the south side of that box is at 14 feet 7 inches......But Studebaker measured the distance from the wall to the rifle as 15 feet 4 inches...  That's a rather precise measurement ......and Boone said the rifle was about 8 feet south of the stairway partition.   

It's starting to appear that the DPD photo ( DP #12 is not authentic)

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Re: Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2019, 02:49:38 PM »
I see the posts as a group centered on 13'. But OK.

Map says the wooden posts are 9 1/2" square.



If the wooden pillars are six inches square, then that makes the light switches on the one shown above very small, about 1.3 x 2.5 inches.

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

    "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

Anything that goes against the WCR, I guess. It's just a good-faith report by some old statesmen and young ambitious attorneys; it did nothing to you.

"I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"....  Seymour Weitzman



Notice that the north edge of the west window is 1 and 1/2 bricks ( approx 12 ")   south of the brick column.....

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Re: Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2019, 05:12:25 PM »


A crop from DP #12 is shown in the upper-right of the graphic above (DP #12 shows the "Stair Way" sign on the brick column). I think the south end of the brick column is getting about the 15 foot mark.

The brick column is centered on the wooden posts and the map suggests they were centered on the 13 foot mark; the brick column is a lot wider than the posts, so a foot-foot wide brick column will get its south edge to the 15 foot mark. Another four inches or so and there's the rifle.

The nearest pallet southward from the stairway (Pallet 1) is 18 or 19 feet from the north wall.



On Studebaker's map he denotes that DP#12 was taken looking directly west toward the west wall and in line with the barrel of the rifle on the floor.  Please notice that he was standing in alignment with the boxes that are stacked ON THE PALLET.....  And that place beneath the pallet is the place where Weitzman and Boone discovered the rifle.


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Re: Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2019, 01:11:34 AM »
I see the posts as a group centered on 13'. But OK.

Map says the wooden posts are 9 1/2" square.



If the wooden pillars are six inches square, then that makes the light switches on the one shown above very small, about 1.3 x 2.5 inches.

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

    "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

Anything that goes against the WCR, I guess. It's just a good-faith report by some old statesmen and young ambitious attorneys; it did nothing to you.


"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

YES!!...."Beneath the wooden pallet." ... Isn't that the place that Studebaker is focusing his camera?    If the rifle hadn't been found there at the 15 foot  4 inch mark why would Studebaker have depicted that he was directly east of the rifle ( the rifle pointed right at his feet ) when he snapped DP #12?

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Re: Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2019, 03:11:13 PM »

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

YES!!...."Beneath the wooden pallet." ... Isn't that the place that Studebaker is focusing his camera?    If the rifle hadn't been found there at the 15 foot  4 inch mark why would Studebaker have depicted that he was directly east of the rifle ( the rifle pointed right at his feet ) when he snapped DP #12?

 Notice where Detective Studebaker was standing when he took DP 12 and DP 13



This is DP #12 .....And Studebaker was facing the west side wall of the sixth floor when he took DP 12 and DP 13.   He was in line with the north edge of the wooden pallet on the floor ....and it was beneath the north edge of that pallet where Seymour Weitzman spotted the rifle.....15 feet 4 inches from the north wall.  ( We can be certain that this spot is 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall by looking at the west wall in the background.....and taking note that the brick column just to the right of the north edge of the window. The map shows us that that brick column was at 13 feet from the north wall and the window was a couple of feet further south.

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Re: Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2019, 04:03:07 PM »

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

YES!!...."Beneath the wooden pallet." ... Isn't that the place that Studebaker is focusing his camera?    If the rifle hadn't been found there at the 15 foot  4 inch mark why would Studebaker have depicted that he was directly east of the rifle ( the rifle pointed right at his feet ) when he snapped DP #12?

 Notice where Detective Studebaker was standing when he took DP 12 and DP 13



This is DP #12 .....And Studebaker was facing the west side wall of the sixth floor when he took DP 12 and DP 13.   He was in line with the north edge of the wooden pallet on the floor ....and it was beneath the north edge of that pallet where Seymour Weitzman spotted the rifle.....15 feet 4 inches from the north wall.  ( We can be certain that this spot is 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall by looking at the west wall in the background.....and taking note that the brick column just to the right of the north edge of the window. The map shows us that that brick column was at 13 feet from the north wall and the window was a couple of feet further south.

taking note that the brick column just to the right of the north edge of the window. The map shows us that that brick column was at 13 feet from the north wall
The north edge of the window is 15 feet from the north wall.......

Since i'm getting no feed back, I can only hope that I'm making myself clear.    The point is:....The rifle was found laying on the floor 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall.  It was NOT found where the official in situ photos depict it.     This not speculation ...it is a provable fact.   which is substantiated by Tom Alyea's video which shows Detective Day grab the leather sling of the rifle and hoist it from the floor.   
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Re: Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2019, 04:30:15 PM »
taking note that the brick column just to the right of the north edge of the window. The map shows us that that brick column was at 13 feet from the north wall
The north edge of the window is 15 feet from the north wall.......

Since i'm getting no feed back, I can only hope that I'm making myself clear.    The point is:....The rifle was found laying on the floor 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall.  It was NOT found where the official in situ photos depict it.     This not speculation ...it is a provable fact.   which is substantiated by Tom Alyea's video which shows Detective Day grab the leather sling of the rifle and hoist it from the floor.   

The photo ( upper left -below) was taken by Detective Studebaker after the rifle was removed .....At the time the rifle was discovered, the boxes were NOT stacked as they are seen in the photo.
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