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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2019, 07:09:48 PM »
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Bloody right CE 133A was "faked" and was not taken by Marina with Oswald's Imperial Reflex camera. The Dallas Police Dept. are up to their eyeballs in this conspiracy from Will Fritz to Roscoe White. If CE 133A was NOT shot with Oswald's Imperial Reflex camera, it suggests that either Marina had nothing to do with it, or she was a lying co-conspirator. Refute that this photo is the smoking gun that implicates the DPD in this conspiracy: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Dallas Police Officer Bobby Brown and accomplice(s) likely shot CE 133A with a better quality camera as part of Oswald's sheep-dipping. Brown claimed that under the direction of the Secret Service he created a silhouette cutout of Oswald taken from a negative of CE 133C and superimposed it over a reenactment photo he had taken from Oswald's backyard. The problem is he supposedly used a negative of CE 133C, which was never admitted into evidence and only surfaced 12 years later.

Who knows what Oswald's handlers told him the photos were for. He might have even known he was the designated patsy, however, he must have been reassured that they would help him escape the crime scene and maybe out of the country. Either way, the DPD double-crossed him, which he found out the hard way when they magically converged on him in the theater.

Here is some damning timeline evidence how the Dallas Police Dept faked CE 133A. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

From the BYPs to delivering LHO to Ruby, members of the DPD are without a doubt conspirators in the assassination of JFK. There is no other logical explanation for their actions.

Jack....Referring to CE 133A and the De M print....If the DPD created CE 133A ...Then how did Demorhenschildt get a copy of it with Lee's autograph on it?

I believe that the Geneva White print 133c   is a fake....created by the DPD.   Captain Fritz displayed that photo to Lee Oswald at lunch time Saturday 11/23/63 BEFORE any other BY photo was found in the Paine garage.....  Lee told Fritz that the photo was a fake.....

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2019, 08:57:36 PM »
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Jack....Referring to CE 133A and the De M print....If the DPD created CE 133A ...Then how did Demorhenschildt get a copy of it with Lee's autograph on it?

Well, given that it just magically showed up in DeMohrenschildt's storage warehouse while they were in Haiti, a better question might be why do you think Oswald had anything to do with it?

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2019, 09:08:19 PM »
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Well, given that it just magically showed up in DeMohrenschildt's storage warehouse while they were in Haiti, a better question might be why do you think Oswald had anything to do with it?

Actually, George DeMohrenschildt thought that it might have been Michael Paine (who apparantly died March 1st) who placed the box containing the BY photo in his storage unit. If true it raises all sorts of questions about that photograph.

First of all, if I remember correctly, Michael Paine has always played down his relationship with DeMohrenschildt, so how did he even end up with access (key?) to his storage unit?
Secondly, Michael Paine has always denied that he knew Oswald had a rifle, but how could he not have known that if he saw/handled the photograph?

Thirdly, why would Oswald "give" DeMohrenschildt a photograph of himself showing him holding a rifle, which he allegedly had told George he had used to shoot at Walker? Was he so stupid that he was handing out photo's that could support an attempted murder charge against him?

And then of course, there was the handwritten text in Russian, which wasn't in Marina's handwriting?..

So, for a photo that was supposedly taken by husband and wife, there seem to be at least three other people possibly involved with at least that one photo. So, what was really going on? 
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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2019, 11:43:59 PM »
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Well, given that it just magically showed up in DeMohrenschildt's storage warehouse while they were in Haiti, a better question might be why do you think Oswald had anything to do with it?

I believe that De M was lying about that photo....I believe that Lee autographed it ..."To my Friend George from Lee Oswald 4/ 5 /63"  ( actually the date was written as the goofy Europeans write the date) and gave it to Dem before the hoax attempt on Walker....  DeM couldn't reveal how he came to have that photo because if the DPD ( Henry Wade)  decided to press an attempted murder charge he would have been forced to reveal that he, and Walker, and Lee had planned the hoax and they were merely trying to get Lee Into Cuba.

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2019, 12:04:28 AM »
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Jack....Referring to CE 133A and the De M print....If the DPD created CE 133A ...Then how did Demorhenschildt get a copy of it with Lee's autograph on it?

I believe that the Geneva White print 133c   is a fake....created by the DPD.   Captain Fritz displayed that photo to Lee Oswald at lunch time Saturday 11/23/63 BEFORE any other BY photo was found in the Paine garage.....  Lee told Fritz that the photo was a fake.....

Since DeMohrenschildt was LHO's handler he was the go-between for Lee and the DPD and SS. Look into their connections and I'll bet you find some interesting stuff.  Also, before it's too late, someone has to question Marina whether the DPD or SS ever came to their house "taking pictures" because she was obviously lying about how many pictures she took. She needs to set the record straight.

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2019, 12:57:25 AM »
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I believe that De M was lying about that photo....I believe that Lee autographed it ..."To my Friend George from Lee Oswald 4/ 5 /63"  ( actually the date was written as the goofy Europeans write the date) and gave it to Dem before the hoax attempt on Walker....  DeM couldn't reveal how he came to have that photo because if the DPD ( Henry Wade)  decided to press an attempted murder charge he would have been forced to reveal that he, and Walker, and Lee had planned the hoax and they were merely trying to get Lee Into Cuba.

4/ 5 /63"  ( actually the date was written as the goofy Europeans write the date) 

Walt, just a question. Why would an American write a date as those "goofy Europeans" write it?

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2019, 02:33:58 AM »
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4/ 5 /63"  ( actually the date was written as the goofy Europeans write the date) 

Walt, just a question. Why would an American write a date as those "goofy Europeans" write it?
Actually, American military write dates as  22 Nov 1963 ... 7 Dec 1941 etc.

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2019, 02:33:58 AM »

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2019, 03:27:38 PM »
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4/ 5 /63"  ( actually the date was written as the goofy Europeans write the date) 

Walt, just a question. Why would an American write a date as those "goofy Europeans" write it?

The "goofy Europeans " was a friendly jab at my friend Paul Ernst....Not intended to offend....BTW... Where is Paul? 

Martin, My apologies....  I did not intend to offend, in the "goofy Europeans" comment....       

Why would an American write a date as Europeans write it?

Answer:.... At the time that Lee autographed the photo, ( Friday April 5, 1963)  I believe that Lee Oswald and George De M were planning for Lee to fire the bullet through Walker's window that weekend (Saturday  4/6 - Sunday 4/7 1963) and Lee wanted George to have a copy of the photo that he had autographed for his daughter ....Thus he asked George how he wanted the photo autographed and DE M dictated how he wanted Lee to sign the photo...   So naturally DeM would have used the European method.....And that's the way Lee wrote it.   

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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2019, 05:22:53 PM »
So, does Bill still believe in the Russia/Trump conspiracy?

Why did Bill believe in a conspiracy theory?


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Re: Why do some people believe in conspiracy theories?
« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2019, 02:26:26 PM »
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I think lots of the "so-called" evidence is valid.  It just doesn't prove that Oswald shot Kennedy.

Exactly right, but that's something the LNs will never be able to wrap their heads around or even discuss openly, for that matter.

Far easier for them to just paint everybody who doesn't agree with them with the same brush and qualify them as irrational, unreasonable, conspiracy mongers even when they don't even have a conspiracy theory to put forward and just want to examine the validity of the case against Oswald.

Great.  So now you tell us whether the documentation linking Oswald to the rifle is fake or genuine instead of running away and trying to have it both ways.  So which is it?

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