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Re: A straight line
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2018, 05:09:58 PM »
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I borrowed this photo from another thread.



Just above the box in the window there are three cars in three lanes....

The car in the center lane seems to be in roughly the same position where JFK's limo was when the shots were fired.

How does a bullet fired from this window and travelling in a straight downward line, passing through Kennedy's back and throat, end up hitting Connally?

Any suggestions?


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The Most Significant Revelation contained within this Photo is the gaggle of Law Enforcement/CSI gathered around the man hole cover/sewer drain on the South Side of Elm Street. This is the Exact Same area that Immediately following the assassination Law Enforcement was photographed picking something up from the grass area around the man hole cover. With regard to the photo above, Dealey Plaza had Now been closed to public foot traffic, and Law Enforcement/CSI in mass has once again descended upon the same man hole cover/sewer drain area. 
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Online Jerry Organ

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2018, 08:05:24 PM »
Perhaps you would be so good as to show me, on the diagram linked to below, just how a bullet managed to pass between the transverse processes of T1 and C7.

https://www.hawaii.edu/medicine/pediatrics/pemxray/v5c02d.jpg


Here, Bob, I'll post the image for you, since you can't.



And here's how a bullet could slide on by the spine and still be between the transverse processes:




from Wikimedia Commons

C7 highlighted in animation.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2018, 10:43:16 PM »

HOCUS POCUS REQUIRED

Placing the JFK Back Entry Wound, (BELOW the shoulder), where it is Clearly Displayed on, (1) The autopsy face sheet, (2) JFK's suit coat, and (3) JFK's dress shirt, coupled with the alleged bullet traveling at a Downward Trajectory from the TSBD 6th floor = NO Way in hell this bullet then manages to Exit JFK's neck at a point Higher than the knot in his tie. 

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2018, 11:11:51 PM »
Maybe one of you brainiacs can point out where the SLOPED shoulders on the face sheet GENERIC DRAWING match Kennedy's SQUARE shoulders.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2018, 11:48:33 PM »
Another simple question. How does a bullet traveling DOWNWARD go upward after allegedly hitting JFK?



This CT legend began with a simple presentation (above) by the HSCA. The wounds through the neck were established using Clyde Snow's anatomical-positioning method; the center profile among the three head outlines seem to be the nearest to Snow's anatomical-position. Baden showed the transit angle changed as the torso changed, settling on the rightmost outline as the wounding position ("the position of the President at the time the missile struck.")

This "wounding position" is shown in the sketch on the left side of JFK F-46. Unfortunately the artist didn't re-orientate the head to vertical, and so a new legend grew out of this, that the HSCA neck transit could only work if the head was tilted forward as shown by the sketch.



The HSCA must have thought readers would be smart enough to realize that when the torso angle at "wounding position" was established then it followed that the head would have to be vertical as in life. But I've seen some doctors on the CT side who couldn't get this.



The HSCA clearly thought the head was at vertical and the neck transit was downward during the wounding. They portrayed it as such in a trajectory drawing.
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« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2018, 02:38:21 AM »
Actually, the FBI said in their report that the bullet was traveling downward. So did the testimony of James Humes.

The bullet allegedly came from the sixth floor so it had to be traveling at a downward angle.

Good, Rob. Good.

And the Clark Panel discovered the autopsy photos showed the neck transit went downward. They did this by noting neck wrinkles that were common to the back photo and the left-profile photo.



Clyde Snow tried to show the neck wounds in an anatomical position, getting a slightly upward direction from back-to-front. The HSCA presented his findings with this drawing:



"Autopsy Position" is a term for anatomical position. The HSCA would have presented the neck transit much better by simply illustrating the Clark Panel's finding that the neck transit was downward at autopsy.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2018, 06:50:27 AM »


This CT legend began with a simple presentation (above) by the HSCA. The wounds through the neck were established using Clyde Snow's anatomical-positioning method; the center profile among the three head outlines seem to be the nearest to Snow's anatomical-position. Baden showed the transit angle changed as the torso changed, settling on the rightmost outline as the wounding position ("the position of the President at the time the missile struck.")

This "wounding position" is shown in the sketch on the left side of JFK F-46. Unfortunately the artist didn't re-orientate the head to vertical, and so a new legend grew out of this, that the HSCA neck transit could only work if the head was tilted forward as shown by the sketch.




The HSCA must have thought readers would be smart enough to realize that when the torso angle at "wounding position" was established then it followed that the head would have to be vertical as in life. But I've seen some doctors on the CT side who couldn't get this.



The HSCA clearly thought the head was at vertical and the neck transit was downward during the wounding. They portrayed it as such in a trajectory drawing.

Uhh, no. The HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel was at cross-purposes with its trajectory expert.

The FPP concluded the bullet rose within Kennedy's body, but that he was leaning sharply forward when struck. Their exhibits depict this lean.

Blakey went behind their backs and hired a trajectory expert, however. He even gave this expert, Thomas Canning, the authority to move the wounds if he wanted to. So he did.

As a consequence, Canning's exhibits show a bullet impacting at the base of the neck, two inches higher than the Pathology Panel placed the wound. Canning also made up some mumbo-jumbo about Kennedy leaning forward when shot in the back, and then sitting up in his seat before getting shot in the head. This was to hide that neither of the trajectories proposed by the HSCA (back to throat at 190, and cowlick to coronal suture at 313) made any sense when one studied the Zapruder film.

This, to me, was an absolute disgrace... And yes, I talked to Blakey about this at the 2014 Bethesda conference. He feigned interest and gave me his email address. But never responded.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2018, 04:03:12 PM »


"Err" Dummkopf, you're applying a ca. Z225 slope to the HSCA's drawing that shows the car at Z190, the place they assigned the second shot based largely on the (faulty) acoustic analysis. The big circle represents the margin-of-error, meaning the shot could have originated anywhere within the circle.



Here's the HSCA drawing amended by me:





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