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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2018, 08:16:38 PM »

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To keep denying the Single Bullet Fact is akin to denying the Holocaust and the Moon Landings but I guess you Kooks simply can't help yourselves.


There is a lot of truth to this. A lot of the prominent people who dismiss the Single Bullet Theory also have other eccentric beliefs:


James Fetzer ? An early leading spokesman for the Zapruder film being faked:
     Holocaust denier

Michael T Griffith ? The leading authority CTers go with to argue against the Neurological Spasm Theory:
     Creationist and denier of the Theory of Evolution
     Supports the notion that the South was right to secede from the Union

Jim Marrs ? Author of the book ?Crossfire? used as the basis for the movie ?JFK?
     Supported the notion that the government is conspiring with the space aliens
     and I believe he was also a Moon Landing denier


Prominent LNers, or even ordinary LNers, like those who post here, do not seem to have quirky beliefs.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2018, 08:16:38 PM »

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2018, 08:22:09 PM »
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There is a lot of truth to this. A lot of the prominent people who dismiss the Single Bullet Theory also have other eccentric beliefs:


James Fetzer ? An early leading spokesman for the Zapruder film being faked:
     Holocaust denier

Michael T Griffith ? The leading authority CTers go with to argue against the Neurological Spasm Theory:
     Creationist and denier of the Theory of Evolution
     Supports the notion that the South was right to secede from the Union

Jim Marrs ? Author of the book ?Crossfire? used as the basis for the movie ?JFK?
     Supported the notion that the government is conspiring with the space aliens
     and I believe he was also a Moon Landing denier


Prominent LNers, or even ordinary LNers, like those who post here, do not seem to have quirky beliefs.

And there is the expected attempt to derail the thread and alter the topic being discussed....

Offline Anthony Clayden

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2018, 08:26:35 PM »
Joe,

Given the initial investigations had a 3 bullet pattern of JFK hit, Connally hit, JFK hit, which was only later modified to fit the Teague strike in after quite a period of time.
That Gov Connally and his wife both consistently asserted that the Gov was hit after JFK.

I do not think being sceptical of the SBT, is a quirky belief.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2018, 08:26:35 PM »

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2018, 11:42:32 PM »
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Stront voor hersenen. You're comparing the angle on a 2D projection to that on a 3D random overhead view.

Stront voor hersenen.

Anybody can use a translation program but if what comes out of it is a rather stupid and pathetic comment in the other language, you've got eieren op je gezicht!

Why don't you try and use the photograph I posted in the OP and show us a straight line from the 6th floor window to the wound on Connally's back? Can you do that?

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2018, 12:52:40 AM »
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I borrowed this photo from another thread.

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Just above the box in the window there are three cars in three lanes....

The car in the center lane seems to be in roughly the same position where JFK's limo was when the shots were fired.

How does a bullet fired from this window and travelling in a straight downward line, passing through Kennedy's back and throat, end up hitting Connally?

Any suggestions?

First of all no bullet follows a straight line trajectory mainly because of the gravitational forces acting on it.

How does a bullet fired from this window and travelling in a straight downward line, passing through Kennedy's back and throat, end up hitting Connally?

First of all that box in the window is not an accurate representation of how that box was placed during the assassination. But close enough. The vehicle in the image is not an accurate representation of the position the Presidential Limousine during the assassination. But close enough. Connally got hit by the same bullet that hit JFK because of the relative positions both men were in at the time of the second shot which made the Single Bullet Theory possible, well not a theory at all but a single bullet fact.   

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2018, 12:57:52 AM »
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First of all no bullet follows a straight line trajectory mainly because of the gravitational forces acting on it.

How does a bullet fired from this window and travelling in a straight downward line, passing through Kennedy's back and throat, end up hitting Connally?

First of all that box in the window is not an accurate representation of how that box was placed during the assassination. But close enough. The vehicle in the image is not an accurate representation of the position the Presidential Limousine during the assassination. But close enough. Connally got hit by the same bullet that hit JFK because of the relative positions both men were in at the time of the second shot which made the Single Bullet Theory possible, well not a theory at all but a single bullet fact.

Connally got hit by the same bullet that hit JFK because of the relative positions both men were in at the time of the second shot

For Connally to be hit where he was, he would have had to be sitting in the center of the car, so dream on.....

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2018, 02:33:30 AM »
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I borrowed this photo from another thread.

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Just above the box in the window there are three cars in three lanes....

The car in the center lane seems to be in roughly the same position where JFK's limo was when the shots were fired.

How does a bullet fired from this window and travelling in a straight downward line, passing through Kennedy's back and throat, end up hitting Connally?

Any suggestions?

Bullets don?t travel in straight lines after striking an object?that?s a common myth. My answer: minute deflection as it traversed the neck. It would also be prudent to consider that JBC was neither directly in front of nor facing forward as was JFK.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2018, 02:33:30 AM »

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2018, 02:54:42 AM »

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Joe,

Given the initial investigations had a 3 bullet pattern of JFK hit, Connally hit, JFK hit, which was only later modified to fit the Teague strike in after quite a period of time.
That Gov Connally and his wife both consistently asserted that the Gov was hit after JFK.

I do not think being sceptical of the SBT, is a quirky belief.



No, you just keep repeating what the other CTers tell you to believe.

What Governor Connally did not believe, was that he was struck by the first bullet. He insisted that he was struck by the second bullet, not the first, as the Warren Commission was leaning toward. He said he could not tell if JFK was hit by the first or second bullet, but he was hit by the second. It turned out that Governor Connally was right. He and JFK were hit by the second bullet.

Mrs. Connally was the one witness who insisted that JFK was hit first, her husband second. But the Zapruder film shows she was not looking at either until after both were hit. I am not persuaded by eyewitnesses, particularly when they are looking in the wrong direction.

Look at Governor Connally?s testimony to the Warren Commission and not just believe what you are told he believed.


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Re: A straight line
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Re: A straight line
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2018, 03:11:34 AM »


You'll think the resident CT trajectory experts Doofus and Weidmann would have realized by now that they're a bit off on their car placement.

At least we now have an idea of where Martin was standing when he pointed his laser.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2018, 03:16:57 AM »
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I love it when posters try to determine a complex 3D trajectory using a static 2D picture.






Your mate Ernie put the lines all over the image, LOL! all I was showing was that the jacket was bunched, do you agree that Kennedy's jacket was bunched?



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Re: A straight line
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