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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2018, 03:27:18 PM »
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Why would your fantasy conspirators go to the considerable trouble and risk to make up a bus and cab ride story?  Imagine the risk that entails in convincing random witnesses who are on the bus to confirm (or least not deny) that Oswald got on the bus.  And then a cab driver.  How would the conspirators even have a clue which bus or cab would be in position?  What would be the point since the bus went nowhere?  What if Oswald was seen elsewhere or arrested at the same time he was supposed to be on the bus or cab?  It is ludicrous as part of a planned event.  The only possible explanation in a conspiracy scenario is that the conspirators assisted Oswald in his getaway from the TSBD.  But why would they do this is they wanted him dead?  Why assist him in getting away from the TSBD but then abandon him at his boardinghouse?  Why take him there to begin with if they are assisting him?  Why not just keep driving for Mexico?  If they are not assisting him, why not just leave him at the TSBD?  If you are not suggesting a conspiracy here but simply that Oswald got to his boardinghouse via some other means on his own, it doesn't seem to matter much.  You are wrong but it doesn't really matter except as an historical curiosity.

It is amusing that you keep on asking questions based on the idea that "the conspirators" must have planned everything to minute detail in advance and you don't give a thought to the possibility of a narrative being constructed after the fact and using available (reliable or not) information.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2018, 03:27:18 PM »


Online Richard Smith

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2018, 04:00:13 PM »
It is amusing that you keep on asking questions based on the idea that "the conspirators" must have planned everything to minute detail in advance and you don't give a thought to the possibility of a narrative being constructed after the fact and using available (reliable or not) information.

LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.  Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly.  In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.  Even Houdini couldn't pull that off.  Did they also have a time machine to go back and figure out which bus and cab would have been in place at the correct times?  And that the bus went nowhere necessitating a fake cab ride.  And who would be on the bus etc.  It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact" as you stupidly suggest unless they had real time knowledge of the bus and cab in place at that moment.  And they could only know that if they planned this in advance.  I know that it is difficult for you to be anything other than a lazy contrarian but assume the fetal position in some dark place and try thinking for once. 
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2018, 04:20:08 PM »
LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.  Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly.  In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.  Even Houdini couldn't pull that off.  Did they also have a time machine to go back and figure out which bus and cab would have been in place at the correct times?  And that the bus went nowhere necessitating a fake cab ride.  And who would be on the bus etc.  It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact" as you stupidly suggest unless they had real time knowledge of the bus and cab in place at that moment.  And they could only know that if they planned this in advance.  I know that it is difficult for you to be anything other than a lazy contrarian but assume the fetal position in some dark place and try thinking for once.

LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.

Why is it that nearly all (if not all) LNs have this massive superiority complex? 

Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly. 

Really? It seems to me they had two possible scenarios from the beginning; the first one was a bus/taxi scenario and the second one was a guy being picked up by a car on Elm street.

In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.

Did he?

It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact"

Well it requires the use of a functional brain... perhaps that's your problem.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2018, 04:30:45 PM »
LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.

Why is it that nearly all (if not all) LNs have this massive superiority complex? 

Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly. 

Really? It seems to me they had two possible scenarios from the beginning; the first one was a bus/taxi scenario and the second one was a guy being picked up by a car on Elm street.

In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.

Did he?

It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact"

Well it requires the use of a functional brain... perhaps that's your problem.

Whew.  You are all over the place.  First it was planned after the fact.  Now there were multiple plans in place beforehand.  Try to focus.  How would the conspirators know which bus would be in place at the right moment and who was on that bus?  How would they get someone on the bus to lie and confirm that Oswald got on?   How would they keep the others quiet?  Why add all these people to the conspiracy when the bus took Oswald nowhere and advanced his escape not one iota?  If the conspirators wanted Oswald dead, why give him any assistance after the fact and then abandon him at his boardinghouse?  Why not let him make his own way there or better yet knock him off at the TSBD?  Instead they give him a head start and cover story for how he reaches his boardinghouse necessitating the coordination of a complex web of facts in lightning speed that add multiple parties to the conspiracy at great risk for no apparent purpose except to put Oswald on a bus to nowhere.   Ridiculous.  You should beg forgiveness from intelligent people for even your feeble attempt to validate this nutty theory.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2018, 04:59:04 PM »
Whew.  You are all over the place.  First it was planned after the fact.  Now there were multiple plans in place beforehand.  Try to focus.  How would the conspirators know which bus would be in place at the right moment and who was on that bus?  How would they get someone on the bus to lie and confirm that Oswald got on?   How would they keep the others quiet?  Why add all these people to the conspiracy when the bus took Oswald nowhere and advanced his escape not one iota?  If the conspirators wanted Oswald dead, why give him any assistance after the fact and then abandon him at his boardinghouse?  Why not let him make his own way there or better yet knock him off at the TSBD?  Instead they give him a head start and cover story for how he reaches his boardinghouse necessitating the coordination of a complex web of facts in lightning speed that add multiple parties to the conspiracy at great risk for no apparent purpose except to put Oswald on a bus to nowhere.   Ridiculous.  You should beg forgiveness from intelligent people for even your feeble attempt to validate this nutty theory.

You really are not getting any of this, aren't you?

First it was planned after the fact. 

Now, you are just being plain weird. How in the world can anybody plan something after the fact? You can work with the available information and come up with a narrative, but that's something entirely different than planning something.

Now there were multiple plans in place beforehand.

Really? Where did I say that?

The remainder of your last rant isn't worth any reply or discussion for one single reason; all that strawman crap in your head.
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2018, 05:26:29 PM »
LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.

Why is it that nearly all (if not all) LNs have this massive superiority complex? 

Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly. 

Really? It seems to me they had two possible scenarios from the beginning; the first one was a bus/taxi scenario and the second one was a guy being picked up by a car on Elm street.

In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.

Did he?

It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact"

Well it requires the use of a functional brain... perhaps that's your problem.

In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.

Did he?

Good Question!....  Did Lee have a bus transfer in his pocket when he was dragged from the theater ???...

Some reports say the cops pulled it from his shirt pocket while in the police car on the way to the police station....but the "official" report say it was taken from his pocket at the time he was booked at about 4:30 that afternoon.

Either way that transfer does NOT look like it's been handled roughly as it would have been if it had been in his shirt pocket at the theater......   It's possible that Lee received the transfer when he departed Mc Watter's bus and placed it in his shirt pocket.   Then when he changed shirts at the rooming house he forgot to remove the transfer ( it was useless at that point)  When the cops searched his room they took the reddish brown shirt with the BUTTON DOWN COLLAR  to police headquarters and discovered the transfer.
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2018, 06:40:29 PM »
In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.

Did he?

Good Question!....  Did Lee have a bus transfer in his pocket when he was dragged from the theater ???...

Some reports say the cops pulled it from his shirt pocket while in the police car on the way to the police station....but the "official" report say it was taken from his pocket at the time he was booked at about 4:30 that afternoon.

Either way that transfer does NOT look like it's been handled roughly as it would have been if it had been in his shirt pocket at the theater......   It's possible that Lee received the transfer when he departed Mc Watter's bus and placed it in his shirt pocket.   Then when he changed shirts at the rooming house he forgot to remove the transfer ( it was useless at that point)  When the cops searched his room they took the reddish brown shirt with the BUTTON DOWN COLLAR  to police headquarters and discovered the transfer.

Finally we reach the Alamo defense.  THE EVIDENCE was faked.  LOL.  Just answer one simple question.  Why would your fantasy conspirators go to the trouble and risk to create the impression that Oswald was on a bus that took him absolutely nowhere?  Necessitating somehow knowing which bus to place him on, convincing those on the bus not to say otherwise (or to confirm his presence), and then to forever keep quiet.  Spin us a yarn.  Martin has embarrassed himself.  But maybe you can explain it.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2018, 06:48:29 PM »

Finally we reach the Alamo defense.  THE EVIDENCE was faked.  LOL.  Just answer one simple question.  Why would your fantasy conspirators go to the trouble and risk to create the impression that Oswald was on a bus that took him absolutely nowhere?  Necessitating somehow knowing which bus to place him on, convincing those on the bus not to say otherwise (or to confirm his presence), and then to forever keep quiet.  Spin us a yarn.  Martin has embarrassed himself.  But maybe you can explain it.


You'll probably need another century to figure it out, but nobody is talking about evidence being faked. Well, uh.... nobody except you!

Why would your fantasy conspirators go to the trouble and risk to create the impression that Oswald was on a bus that took him absolutely nowhere?

Simple answer that will probably confuse you ever more: They didn't create that impression!
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