Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?


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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #272 on: June 03, 2018, 01:27:28 PM »
This was reply # 27. I highlighted the only parts of it that I agreed with.
Folks say we can only speculate and then speculate further on :-\

This is from reply # 68...[got the thread back on track]
by John Iacoletti   
Perhaps they should have brought Whaley in and had Oswald identify him   ;)
The interrogation notes states that Oswald admitted taking a cab.
He said he paid $.85 cents.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=29104#relPageId=6&tab=page
[Pages 6 & 7]
The cabbie [affidavit] said that the charge was $.95 and that his fare gave him a dollar and he could just go ahead and keep it. The cab driver stated [affidavit] that his fare told him 500 N Beckley. The reason why [even if Oswald was the passenger] remains a mystery.
If it was a conspirator then he might have gone the few blocks over to shoot Tippit.
Wm Whaley was killed in a head on collision in 1965.

  Take a look at some more of Whaley's April 8 testimony....
If one hasn't read this...how could they truly say they have researched this case?
From what I understand of David Belin, he was a real prick.
Whaley couldn't seem to remember if he did or didn't sign a statement before the line-up?  #8 man? What is Belin talking about?
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  Yeah right
********************************************"Defense attorney"? Oswald was dead
**********************************************************So rattled, he didn't know what day it was
**************************************************Yeah, let's shave every minute ...every second we can to make things work :-\


Jerry...I believe that you're on the right track.....Lee Oswald was not guilty and he was a naive dupe who was used by Hoover's "Extra Special" Special agents as the patsy that Lee Oswald recognized he was.

The Warren Commission was nothing but a Special Blue Ribbon Cover Up Committee which was composed of shyster lawyers.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #273 on: September 22, 2018, 12:05:40 AM »
Hugh Aynesworth reporting on 28 November, 1963 about Whaley and his Navy Cross combat award.:


There is no available record, so far, of Whaley's professed award of the Navy Cross.



Whaley was born in June, 1908 as recently as in the information displayed on his son William W Whaley, Jr's 1931 birth certificate, but since then he was born in 1905 although his parents married in 1907 according to Hopkins County, TX records and the same familoy bible that describes Whaley's birth as in 1908.
UPDATED: Whaley's 1942 Selective Service document indicates he may have written his birth date as June 19, 1908,
three years later than the date on his death certificate and gravestone.

His son and namesake William's 1997 obit lists William Jr's aunt Alice Patterson as his mother and mentions no father.
Whaley Sr's obit does not mention his namesake son, William, Jr.

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Albuquerque Journal from Albuquerque, New Mexico on October 30 ...
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/157414971/

Oct 30, 1984 - SEALES Mr. Alvin S. Seales, age 73 and a resident here 21 years, died Monday in a local hospital following an illness. He is survived by his wife, Alice; a son William W. Whaley and wife Dorothy; granddaughter Jamy Whaley; grandson, William W. Whaley Jr. and wife Nancy, all of Albuquerque; a brother ..

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https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/157070315/
June 24, 1997........
WHALEY William Wayne Whaley, 65, passed away unexpectedly on June 18, 1997 in Michigan while on vacation. Husband of 43 years to Dorothy; father and father-in-law of Jamy and Gregg Peevy and Bill Jr. and Dee Whaley, all of Albuquerque; son of Alice (Pat) Scales of Albuquerque. Mr. Whaley retired from Us Alamos National Ubs in 1993 after 17 years. A memorial service will be held Wednesday, 3:00 p.m. at French Mortuary, Umas Blvd. Chapel, 10500 Umas NE. Cremation has taken place. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to Noonday Ministry, P.O. Box 8769, Albuquerque, NM 87198 or New Mexico Boys and Girls Ranch, 6209 Hendrix NE, Albuquerque, NM 87110. French Mortuary, 10500 Umas NE. Church with Rev. Archie Parker officiating. Interment to follow at Santa Fe National Cemetery with Wilson Cox Jr., David Cox, David O'Dell Jr., Timoth O'Dell, Patrick O'Dell and Jon Palmer serving as pallbearers......

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ABQJournal Online - Albuquerque Journal Obituaries
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Jan 30, 1999 - Seales -- Alice (Pat) Seales, passed away Wednesday morning, January 27, 1999, at Sunrise Mission Manor Care and Rehabilitation. She was 91 years old. She was preceded in death by her husband, Alvin S. Seales; and her son, William Whaley. She is survived by her daughter-in-law, Dorothy Whaley; ...

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #274 on: September 22, 2018, 02:56:14 AM »
Hugh Aynesworth reporting on 28 November, 1963 about Whaley and his Navy Cross combat award.:


UPDATE:

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This newspaper story is one of the biggest distortions and exaggeration of the facts I've ever seen....It's a CROCK!

But...There is one thing that Aynesworth attributes to William Whaley that Whaley reiterated during his WC testimony.... Whaley said; "I didn't notice anything particularly unusual, ( because the guy was just another wino ) "I've hauled a lot of winos in my time"

Whaley made this same statement to the WC....  IOW..The man was NOT Lee Oswald because Lee sure as hell did not look like a wino.

Another point that refutes Ayneworth's fairy tale ....Lee departs the bus....Aynesworth writes..."The time is now approximately 12:42 to 12:45. Oswald hurries south across Elm to Lamar, then two blocks south to to the Greyhound Bus Terminal on the corner of Lamar and Commerce. " CAN I TAKE THIS CAB" he shouts to the driver.

According to Aynesworth, Lee would have arrived at the Taxi Stand at the Bus Station at about 12:50  ....Hmmmmm  William Whaley said that the man who looked like a "wino" and was dressed in BLUE work uniform got in his cab at 12:30.....And the man did NOT shout at him....Whaley said that the man simply asked if he could have the cab.....

With liars like Aynesworth reporting the news....( His imaginary news)  it's no wonder that the readers thought that Lee Oswald really was a killer.

« Last Edit: September 22, 2018, 01:07:36 PM by Walt Cakebread »

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« Reply #275 on: September 22, 2018, 10:55:26 PM »
This newspaper story is one of the biggest distortions and exaggeration of the facts I've ever seen....It's a CROCK!

But...There is one thing that Aynesworth attributes to William Whaley that Whaley reiterated during his WC testimony.... Whaley said; "I didn't notice anything particularly unusual, ( because the guy was just another wino ) "I've hauled a lot of winos in my time"

Whaley made this same statement to the WC....  IOW..The man was NOT Lee Oswald because Lee sure as hell did not look like a wino.

Another point that refutes Ayneworth's fairy tale ....Lee departs the bus....Aynesworth writes..."The time is now approximately 12:42 to 12:45. Oswald hurries south across Elm to Lamar, then two blocks south to to the Greyhound Bus Terminal on the corner of Lamar and Commerce. " CAN I TAKE THIS CAB" he shouts to the driver.

According to Aynesworth, Lee would have arrived at the Taxi Stand at the Bus Station at about 12:50  ....Hmmmmm  William Whaley said that the man who looked like a "wino" and was dressed in BLUE work uniform got in his cab at 12:30.....And the man did NOT shout at him....Whaley said that the man simply asked if he could have the cab.....

With liars like Aynesworth reporting the news....( His imaginary news)  it's no wonder that the readers thought that Lee Oswald really was a killer.

Aynesworth declares that he had "retraced" the arch Villain's foot steps after the coup d e'tat and timed the villain's movements as he "escaped'   

Aynesworth wrote:....'More than 30 minutes had elapsed since the assassination.  Oswald was still only four blocks away."


Aynesworth retraced Lee's footsteps ....Then why doesn't his reenactment concur with the story that LBJ's Cover Up committee dumped on us??

The Committee's official tale says that Lee Oswald departed Whaley's taxi about twenty minutes after the assassination, but Aynesworth says that Lee was in Whaley's Taxi just four blocks away from the TSBD " more than 30 minutes"
 after the shooting

The Fact is....Lee Oswald was never in William Whaley's taxi...
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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #276 on: June 16, 2019, 05:37:57 AM »
Whaley's testimony indicates Leavelle had his hands full on Saturday, or Whaley was attempting to extricate himself from a lie.
We know Leavelle had his hands full on Sunday. Why wasn't his partner, Joe Cody, summoned back to Dallas from Shreveport, (Cody had flown there on personal business in his own plane...) given the emergency, not  even for duty two days after the assassination?

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DPD Det. Joe Cody, ex-hockey player skating friend of Ruby uncle= Oswald contact
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1992.0.html

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/pdf/WH6_Whaley.pdf


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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #277 on: June 17, 2019, 01:50:10 AM »
Whaley's testimony indicates Leavelle had his hands full on Saturday, or Whaley was attempting to extricate himself from a lie.
We know Leavelle had his hands full on Sunday. Why wasn't his partner, Joe Cody, summoned back to Dallas from Shreveport, (Cody had flown there on personal business in his own plane...) given the emergency, not  even for duty two days after the assassination?

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/pdf/WH6_Whaley.pdf



Whaley's testimony indicates Leavelle had his hands full on Saturday, or Whaley was attempting to extricate himself from a lie.

Yes.... Leavealle had his hands full....AND ....Whaley was trying to extricate himself for the mess he'd got himself into with his BS.......

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