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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #270 on: March 13, 2018, 06:50:12 PM »
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'one swell poop' lol
No need to tell us about the state of your bowel movements

Try 'one fell swoop' next time


Dirty Harvey's revolver was a six shot weapon
Not sure any eyewitness saw him eject shells all at once.
No one said they heard six shots, did they?


Table of Contents, Appendix IX, Appendix XI
Appendix X - Expert Testimony
Firearms And Firearms Identification
Cite: MacAdams

To extract empty cartridge cases, the cylinder is swung out and an ejector rod attached to the cylinder is pushed, simultaneously ejecting all the cartridge cases (and cartridges) in the cylinder. If both live cartridges and expended cartridge cases are in the cylinder, before pushing the ejection rod one can tip the cylinder and dump the live cartridges into his hand. The cartridge cases will not fall out, because they are lighter than the cartridges, and when fired they will have expanded so as to tightly fit the chamber walls.

Try 'one fell swoop' next time

The faux pas was deliberate.....Idiot!
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #271 on: March 14, 2018, 01:42:46 AM »
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Learn the FACTS ....Moron....  FBI agent Cortland cunning ham DEMONSTRATED the removal of the spent cases from the revolver they said was Lee Oswald's gun.   Cunningham ejected all five of them with one push of the extractor rod.
Is this too difficult for you to understand?


Mr. EISENBERG. Now, Mr. Cunningham, would you show how you would eject the five expended shells?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. yes. These are very difficult, by the way, to extract, due to the fact that the chamber has been rechambered. And as you can see, you get on your cartridge cases a little ballooning with these smaller diameter cases in the .38 Special.
Mr. EISENBERG. I would like the record to show that Mr. Cunningham extracted the five expended cartridge eases merely by one push of the ejector rod.
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Yon won't be able to see it again, but when you eject a cartridge ease later on for the powder pattern test, I will show that you can have residues of unburned powder. That is what would happen if you ejected these cartridge cases in your hand. You would pick up unburned powder, residues, and partially burned powder.
Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Cunningham had ejected five cartridge cases from the revolver into his hand, and his right hand is now filled with small black particles, whose composition I am unable to determine.
Representative FORD. That would happen any time that you did it?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Yes, sir; every time you eject them, these particles will come out from the cylinder into your hand--unburned powder, partially burned powder, and gunpowder residues.

Did you understand what Cunningham said, Billy Bob?

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #272 on: March 14, 2018, 02:52:19 AM »
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Timmy,  perhaps you should "focus on what you read.!"...."Your memory is pathetic." and your buddy Billy Bob is an idiot...

Mr. EISENBERG. Now, Mr. Cunningham, would you show how you would eject the five expended shells?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. yes. These are very difficult, by the way, to extract, due to the fact that the chamber has been rechambered. And as you can see, you get on your cartridge cases a little ballooning with these smaller diameter cases in the .38 Special.
Mr. EISENBERG. I would like the record to show that Mr. Cunningham extracted the five expended cartridge eases merely by one push of the ejector rod.
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Yon won't be able to see it again, but when you eject a cartridge ease later on for the powder pattern test, I will show that you can have residues of unburned powder. That is what would happen if you ejected these cartridge cases in your hand. You would pick up unburned powder, residues, and partially burned powder.
Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Cunningham had ejected five cartridge cases from the revolver into his hand, and his right hand is now filled with small black particles, whose composition I am unable to determine.
Representative FORD. That would happen any time that you did it?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Yes, sir; every time you eject them, these particles will come out from the cylinder into your hand--unburned powder, partially burned powder, and gunpowder residues.

Mr. EISENBERG. I notice that one of the cartridge cases in Exhibit 595 is split on the side, Mr. Cunningham.
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG. Why is that?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. That is due to the oversized chambers of this revolver. As I previously testified, the weapon was originally chambered for the .38 S&W, which is a wider cartridge than .38 Special. And when a .38 Special is fired in this particular weapon, the case form fits to the shape of each chamber. And in one of those cartridges, the metal just let go. Normally it does not; however this one particular case split slightly.
Representative FORD. Does that have any impact on the rest of the operation?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. No, sir. As a matter of fact, I test-fired the weapon originally, and I didn't even know it had split until I tried to eject it.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #273 on: March 14, 2018, 09:47:06 AM »
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Mr. EISENBERG. I notice that one of the cartridge cases in Exhibit 595 is split on the side, Mr. Cunningham.
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG. Why is that?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. That is due to the oversized chambers of this revolver. As I previously testified, the weapon was originally chambered for the .38 S&W, which is a wider cartridge than .38 Special. And when a .38 Special is fired in this particular weapon, the case form fits to the shape of each chamber. And in one of those cartridges, the metal just let go. Normally it does not; however this one particular case split slightly.
Representative FORD. Does that have any impact on the rest of the operation?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. No, sir. As a matter of fact, I test-fired the weapon originally, and I didn't even know it had split until I tried to eject it.



So what Timmy??.......There's not enough information here to know If Cunningham loaded a single bullet into the cylinder and fired just that single cartridge..... and I doubt that he did that.    But that wouldn't change anything, because Tippit's killer did not load one round and fire his revolver in that weird manner....

The fact remains that Tippit's killer fired at least four shots rapidly.....  He then walked away from the scene extracting one spent shell at a time and tossing them over a wide area.   The spent shells were found not in a group as Cunningham described but scattered around the area.  They were not found in a group s they would have been if Tippit's killer had been using the Smith and Wesson that Cortland Cunningham used for the demonstration. The killer was not using a Smith and Wesson revolver like  the one they said was Lee Oswald's.

The conclusion is.....Lee Oswald did not shoot JD Tippit.....

Is this too difficult for you Timmy?
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #274 on: March 14, 2018, 09:27:48 PM »
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Mr. EISENBERG. I notice that one of the cartridge cases in Exhibit 595 is split on the side, Mr. Cunningham.
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG. Why is that?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. That is due to the oversized chambers of this revolver. As I previously testified, the weapon was originally chambered for the .38 S&W, which is a wider cartridge than .38 Special. And when a .38 Special is fired in this particular weapon, the case form fits to the shape of each chamber. And in one of those cartridges, the metal just let go. Normally it does not; however this one particular case split slightly.
Representative FORD. Does that have any impact on the rest of the operation?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. No, sir. As a matter of fact, I test-fired the weapon originally, and I didn't even know it had split until I tried to eject it.


Are you aware that it would be very very difficult to remove spent shells from the S&W that had been expanded ( bulged)
without using the extractor rod ( which removes all of the cartridges at once with a single stroke) 

Anybody attempting to remove the shells one at a time would have to have some sort of a tool to pry them out of the cylinder.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #275 on: March 15, 2018, 12:26:06 PM »
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So what Timmy??.......There's not enough information here to know If Cunningham loaded a single bullet into the cylinder and fired just that single cartridge..... and I doubt that he did that.    But that wouldn't change anything, because Tippit's killer did not load one round and fire his revolver in that weird manner....

The fact remains that Tippit's killer fired at least four shots rapidly.....  He then walked away from the scene extracting one spent shell at a time and tossing them over a wide area.   The spent shells were found not in a group as Cunningham described but scattered around the area.  They were not found in a group s they would have been if Tippit's killer had been using the Smith and Wesson that Cortland Cunningham used for the demonstration. The killer was not using a Smith and Wesson revolver like  the one they said was Lee Oswald's.

The conclusion is.....Lee Oswald did not shoot JD Tippit.....

Is this too difficult for you Timmy?


You never answered, Timmy.....   Do you now understand why Lee Oswald could not have been the killer who Domingo Benavides saw shoot JD Tippit...  The revolver that made it's debut at the Texas Theater was a Smith & Wesson, and the man who shot J.D. Tippit was NOT using a Smith & Wesson.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #276 on: March 15, 2018, 04:53:30 PM »
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Mr. EISENBERG. I notice that one of the cartridge cases in Exhibit 595 is split on the side, Mr. Cunningham.
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG. Why is that?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. That is due to the oversized chambers of this revolver. As I previously testified, the weapon was originally chambered for the .38 S&W, which is a wider cartridge than .38 Special. And when a .38 Special is fired in this particular weapon, the case form fits to the shape of each chamber. And in one of those cartridges, the metal just let go. Normally it does not; however this one particular case split slightly.
Representative FORD. Does that have any impact on the rest of the operation?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. No, sir. As a matter of fact, I test-fired the weapon originally, and I didn't even know it had split until I tried to eject it.



It is a fact that President John Kennedy was murdered at 12:30 PM 11/22/63......

Since the official tale has Lee Oswald as the arch villain and Lone Nut who murdered JFK.....then he could not have been the passenger in Whaley's cab ......unless Lee Oswald had the ability to be at two different places at the same time.

I've always found Whaley's description of the man he transported to Oakcliff interesting.  Here he clearly thought the man had just got off a Greyhound bus and was a "Wino".......  There isn't a single photo of Lee Oswald in which he looks like Whaley's description.

When you drive a taxi that long, you
learn to judge people, and what I actually thought of the man when he
got in was that he was a wino who had been off his bottle for about
two days. That is the way he looked, sir. That was my opinion of him.

Mr. BALL. What was there about his appearance that gave you that
impression? Hair mussed?

Mr. WHALEY. Just the slow way he walked up. He didn't talk. He wasn't
in any hurry. He wasn't nervous or anything.

Mr. BALL. He didn't run?

Mr. WHALEY. No, sir.

Mr. BALL. Did he look dirty?

Mr. WHALEY. He looked like his clothes had been slept in, sir, but he
wasn't actually dirty. The T-shirt was a little soiled around the
collar, but the bottom part of it was white. You have to know those
winos, or they will get in and ride with you and there isn't nothing
you can do but call the police. The city gets the fine and you get
nothing.



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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #277 on: March 15, 2018, 09:44:39 PM »
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Tell us how a request to stop qualifies as a conversation, exactly...
Since when did Dirty Harvey ever want to engage with strangers (let alone fellow employees)

That home schoolin' just hasn't worked out for ya, has it Waldo...
 

Hello Chappy Coward.....  Hello....Where are you Chappy??.....   Did you let your alligator mouth overload yer tadpole arse again ?

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #278 on: March 15, 2018, 11:17:40 PM »
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The desperation never ends with you guys.

I think the desperation is the claim that Whaley's passenger told him to go to the 500 block of North Beckley so that he could check if cops were there.

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The most direct route from the Greyhound Station to 500 North Beckley was to cross the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley.  This route passes the rooming house BEFORE reaching the 500 block of North Beckley.

Since when do cab drivers always take the most direct route?  Besides, Whaley said that he didn't take the most direct route leaving the station because he was timing the lights.

Mr. WHALEY. I turned to the left off Lamar onto Jackson, went one block to Austin, then from Austin I turned to the left again and went one block over to Wood Street.
Now, the reason for that is if you catch this light right at Lamar and Jackson, this other light turns green as you make your turn here and the other one turns green as you make your turn at Wood. You just move through traffic. That was my reason for making the turn.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #279 on: March 15, 2018, 11:19:10 PM »
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When you add in that Barbara and Virginia Davis both saw the killer walk across the property they were living at emptying the shells too,

The Davises didn't see anybody kill anybody.

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« Reply #279 on: March 15, 2018, 11:19:10 PM »