Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #203 on: March 11, 2018, 11:08:32 AM »
If the man had been Lee Oswald who "wanted to pass by the rooming house"   ...HOW would he have known that Whaley would take a route that would pass by the rooming house??     

I agree.  Perhaps you never noticed that I argued against the "wanted to pass by the rooming house to see if the cops were there" assumption on many occasions.  It doesn't make sense on multiple levels.

The desperation never ends with you guys.

The most direct route from the Greyhound Station to 500 North Beckley was to cross the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley.  This route passes the rooming house BEFORE reaching the 500 block of North Beckley.

Would either one of you two care to post an alternate route which is even remotely close to the same (in terms of time or distance) as the one I mention above?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #204 on: March 11, 2018, 08:13:24 PM »
The desperation never ends with you guys.

The most direct route from the Greyhound Station to 500 North Beckley was to cross the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley.  This route passes the rooming house BEFORE reaching the 500 block of North Beckley.

Would either one of you two care to post an alternate route which is even remotely close to the same (in terms of time or distance) as the one I mention above?

That's irrelevant...   The point is...  How would the passenger know what route the Taxi would travel?

Whaley could have exited the Houston street viaduct at Marsallis and then turned west on 7th . 8th. 9th,......

But the FACT remains  Whaley's "wino" passenger who was dressed in blue workman's clothes could not know what route Whaley would travel.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #205 on: March 11, 2018, 08:35:32 PM »
That's irrelevant...   The point is...  How would the passenger know what route the Taxi would travel?

Whaley could have exited the Houston street viaduct at Marsallis and then turned west on 7th . 8th. 9th,......

But the FACT remains  Whaley's "wino" passenger who was dressed in blue workman's clothes could not know what route Whaley would travel.

Given the fact that Whaley stated he heard sirens and that the housekeeper at Oswald's residence reported him coming home, changing, and then leaving doesn't look good for Oswald. Whaley was obviously wrong about the time. The fact is Oswald was at the North Beckley resident at around 1:00 pm according to Earlene Roberts.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #206 on: March 11, 2018, 10:25:23 PM »
Given the fact that Whaley stated he heard sirens and that the housekeeper at Oswald's residence reported him coming home, changing, and then leaving doesn't look good for Oswald. Whaley was obviously wrong about the time. The fact is Oswald was at the North Beckley resident at around 1:00 pm according to Earlene Roberts.

The fact is Oswald was at the North Beckley resident at around 1:00 pm according to Earlene Roberts.

Based on Whaley's description of his passenger .....That passenger was NOT Lee Oswald.   But Lee did apparently acknowledge that he had hired  a Taxi and paid that driver 85 cents for the ride.....   Whaley said he charged his "wino" passenger 95 cents.



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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #207 on: March 11, 2018, 10:46:00 PM »
That's irrelevant...   The point is...  How would the passenger know what route the Taxi would travel?

Whaley could have exited the Houston street viaduct at Marsallis and then turned west on 7th . 8th. 9th,......

But the FACT remains  Whaley's "wino" passenger who was dressed in blue workman's clothes could not know what route Whaley would travel.


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That's irrelevant...   The point is...  How would the passenger know what route the Taxi would travel?

No, it's not irrelevant at all.

Oswald was obviously very familiar with the area in question, as was Whaley.


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Whaley could have exited the Houston street viaduct at Marsallis and then turned west on 7th . 8th. 9th,......

Use all of the side streets versus simply staying on Zang.  Riiiight.

A cab located on the Houston Street viaduct at Marsallis would reach 500 North Beckley twice as fast if it took the viaduct to Zang to Beckley than it would if it exited the viaduct at Marsallis and took any of those side streets west.

Common sense told Oswald that the cabbie would take the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley on it's way to the 500 block.

Common sense told Whaley to take the viaduct to Zang to Beckley on his way to the 500 block.

I don't expect you to understand.
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #208 on: March 12, 2018, 02:18:34 PM »

No, it's not irrelevant at all.

Oswald was obviously very familiar with the area in question, as was Whaley.


Use all of the side streets versus simply staying on Zang.  Riiiight.

A cab located on the Houston Street viaduct at Marsallis would reach 500 North Beckley twice as fast if it took the viaduct to Zang to Beckley than it would if it exited the viaduct at Marsallis and took any of those side streets west.

Common sense told Oswald that the cabbie would take the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley on it's way to the 500 block.

Common sense told Whaley to take the viaduct to Zang to Beckley on his way to the 500 block.

I don't expect you to understand.

Common sense told Oswald that the cabbie would take the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley on it's way to the 500 block.

Billy Bob..... You've stated that you believe that Lee Oswald was desperately fleeing the scene and if that were true He most certainly would have had other thoughts going through his mind then wondering about what route he cab woul take to Oakcliff.   

Common sense told Oswald that the cabbie would take the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley

Are you referring to the "wino" in the blue workman's clothing ?

Commonsense would dictate that Lee Oswald who was not a "wino" and was dressed in a brown shirt and gray trousers, that he didn't need to worry about he police waiting a the rooming house, because he knew that nobody knew where he was living.         

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #209 on: March 12, 2018, 02:23:41 PM »
Common sense told Oswald that the cabbie would take the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley on it's way to the 500 block.

Billy Bob..... You've stated that you believe that Lee Oswald was desperately fleeing the scene and if that were true He most certainly would have had other thoughts going through his mind then wondering about what route he cab woul take to Oakcliff.   

Common sense told Oswald that the cabbie would take the Houston Street viaduct to Zang to Beckley

Are you referring to the "wino" in the blue workman's clothing ?

Commonsense would dictate that Lee Oswald who was not a "wino" and was dressed in a brown shirt and gray trousers, that he didn't need to worry about he police waiting a the rooming house, because he knew that nobody knew where he was living.       


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You've stated that you believe that Lee Oswald was desperately fleeing the scene...

I don't recall ever saying that.


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...and if that were true He most certainly would have had other thoughts going through his mind then wondering about what route he cab woul take to Oakcliff.

I don't believe Oswald was "wondering about what route" the cabbie would take.  The proper route is pretty much a given and therefore, no "wondering" necessary.