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Offline Zeon Wasinsky

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #120 on: February 17, 2018, 04:15:15 AM »
The word shiny appears in your post seven times but both records of Whaley's 23 November claims do not include that word, at all.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340509/m1/1/


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57698&search=whaley#relPageId=174&tab=page


Are you implying that Whaleys WC testimony using the word "shiny" was his own embellishment or someone coached him to add the  word?
Or he saw the photo as Walts suggest, later, and that's when Whaley added the word "shiny"?
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #121 on: February 17, 2018, 01:44:33 PM »
Whaley is the only witness to have noticed the shiny wrist bracelet that Oswald was wearing.

All those other witnesses at the Tippet shooting scene, NONE mention seeing any bracelet. Even though they saw the shooter emptying his shells out and waving his gun in the air, ALL of them apparently failed to see the shiny bracelet.

Even AFTER Oswald (or another shooter) has apparently ditched his jacket under a car , no other witnesses saw a bracelet either. Not Johnny Brewer, not the ticket girl, not Butch Burroughs, not ANY apparently of the other people in the Texas Theater saw Oswalds shiny, bracelet.

Not even the struggling McDonald mentions seeing Oswald wearing a bracelet




But Whaley saw the bracelet:


Mr. BALL. Was there anything in particular about him beside his clothing that you could identify such as jewelry, bracelets?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir; he had on a bracelet of some type on his left arm. It looked like an identification bracelet. Just shiny, you know, how you see anything shiny, an unusual watchband or something shiny, you notice things like that.

So a rather noticeable shiny bracelet, according to Whaley, which was unnoticed by all the Tippet scene witnesses, and all the other witness afterwards, even McDonald standing right next to Oswald in the Texas Theater.

This seems remarkable imo, it seems to defy probability.

Mr. BALL. Was there anything in particular about him beside his clothing that you could identify such as jewelry, bracelets?

Do any of you amateur Attorney's know what Ball did in asking Whaley the above?   

Clue....   It's called... L------ the witness....

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #122 on: February 17, 2018, 05:49:03 PM »
And Clinton said  "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky''.

Clinton was an accomplished LNer......  He could tell the most obvious lie and then defend it as if it was the gospel truth...Just like a LNer.

PATHETIC!!
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #123 on: February 18, 2018, 01:43:05 PM »
Are you implying that Whaleys WC testimony using the word "shiny" was his own embellishment or someone coached him to add the  word?
Or he saw the photo as Walts suggest, later, and that's when Whaley added the word "shiny"?

Mr. BALL. Did you notice how he was dressed?

Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. I didn't pay much attention to it right then.
But it all came back when I really found out who I had. He was dressed
in just ordinary work clothes. It wasn't khaki pants but they were
khaki material, blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in
khaki.


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57698&search=whaley#relPageId=174&tab=page


He was dressed in just ordinary work clothes. It wasn't khaki pants but they were khaki material, blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.

In the last paragraph of the FBI report notice the FBI changed the color of the trousers that Whaley's passenger was wearing ...Whaley reported that the man was wearing a blue colored jacket and BLUE  trousers ...but the FBI changed Whaley's description  of his passenger's clothes so that the clothes matched the clothes that Lee left in his room after changing his clothes to go to the theater.
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #124 on: February 19, 2018, 03:26:05 PM »



Mr. BALL. Now, what happened after that, will you tell us in your own words what he did?
Mr. WHALEY. Well, on this which was the 14th trip when I picked up at the Greyhound I marked it 12:30 to 12:45.
Mr. BALL. You say that can be off 15 minutes?
Mr. WHALEY. That can be off either direction.


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If Whaley calculated time in fifteen minute increments and the man who was wearing the BLUE workman's uniform clothing approached his cab at 12:30, he would not have thought it was 12:45.....   

BTW.... Mr Mytton, why did you delete Whaley's hand written affidavits ??.....  Do you lack the guts to debate those hand written affidavits?
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« Reply #125 on: February 19, 2018, 09:51:46 PM »
If Whaley calculated time in fifteen minute increments and the man who was wearing the BLUE workman's uniform clothing approached his cab at 12:30, he would not have thought it was 12:45.....   

BTW.... Mr Mytton, why did you delete Whaley's hand written affidavits ??.....  Do you lack the guts to debate those hand written affidavits?

 Mr Mytton, why did you delete Whaley's hand written affidavits ??.....  Do you lack the guts to debate those hand written affidavits?

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #126 on: February 20, 2018, 05:46:19 PM »
Mr Mytton, why did you delete Whaley's hand written affidavits ??.....  Do you lack the guts to debate those hand written affidavits?

Mr Mytton, why did you delete Whaley's hand written affidavits ??.....  Do you lack the guts to debate those hand written affidavits?

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #127 on: February 20, 2018, 06:59:46 PM »
Walt, forget about Mytton, there's no way around "at 12:30".

He also chickened out of his astronomical numbers in the jacket thread.

I'd really like to debate Coward Mytton about William Whaley's hand written affidavits.....But the coward deleted the exhibits.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #128 on: February 20, 2018, 07:34:13 PM »
But they will not go away in the Texas archives ;-)

Would you please post them......

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #129 on: February 21, 2018, 05:54:33 PM »
Whaley drafts...

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340663/?q=William%20whaley

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340356/?q=William%20whaley

Thanks Tom.....

Let's see what Whaley told LBJ's Cover Up committee.......

Mr. WHALEY. No, sir, I didn't drive until I reached the 500 block. I drove until I reached Beckley and Neely. If you would be in my place when they took me down there, when they had to force their way through the reporters to get me in the office, they wrote that up, and I signed it, because I told them that the man said he wanted to go to the 500 block of North Beckley.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Now in here it says, "The No. 3 man who I now know is Lee Harvey Oswald was the man who I carried from the Greyhound Bus Station* * *"
Was this the No. 3 or the No. 2 man?
Mr. WHALEY. I signed that statement before they carried me down to see the lineup. I signed this statement, and then they carried me down to the lineup at 2:30 in the afternoon.
Mr. BELIN. You signed this affidavit before you saw the lineup.
Mr. WHALEY. Well, now, let's get this straight. You are getting me confused.
Mr. BELIN. Now, I will put it this way. There was an FBI reporter, FBI interviewer with you?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir; there was.
Mr. BELIN. And there was an interview with the Dallas Police Department?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes. And Bill Alexander from the district attorney's office was there, also.
Mr. BELIN. All right, now, the last sentence.
Mr. WHALEY. Let me tell you how they fixed this up. They had me in the office saying that. They were writing it out on paper, and they wrote it out on paper, and this officer, Leavelle, I think that is his name, before he finished and before I signed he wanted me to go with him to the lineup, so I went to the lineup, and I come back and he asked me which one it was, which number it was, and I identified the man, and we went back up in the office again, and then they had me sign this. That is as near as I can remember.

It looks to me that Whaley was illiterate...... Leavelle and an FBI agent jotted down what they understood Whaley to say......and Whaley signed the affidavits but could not read what had been written. 

It's very revealing that Whaley told the "stenographers" that he was at the Greyhound bus depot at 12:20 and picked up the man in the BLUE colored workman's clothes at 12:30.    The shyster lawyers on LBJ's Special Select Blue Ribbon Cover up committee  worked diligently to make that man into Lee Oswald and change the time to 12:45.......

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340663/?q=William%20whaley

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340356/?q=William%20whaley

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #129 on: February 21, 2018, 05:54:33 PM »