BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

[Tim Nickerson]

Howlett was obviously not aware that the curtain rods had been removed from the garage by Howlett on the 15th

Read!:

Mr. JENNER - Now, we all see, do we not, peeking up what appears to be a butt end of what we might call a curtain rod, is that correct?
Mrs. PAINE - That's correct.
Mr. JENNER - Is that correct, Mr. Howlett?
Agent HOWLETT - Yes, sir; that's correct.
Mr. JENNER - Painted or enameled white?
Agent HOWLETT - Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER - Would you reach back there and take out what appears to be a curtain rod, Mr. Howlett-- how many do you have there?
Agent HOWLETT - There are two curtain rods, one a white and the other a kind of buff color or cream colored.
Mr. JENNER - Now, would you please search the rest of that shelf and see if you can find any other curtain rods or anything similar to the curtain rods, and look on the bottom shelves, Mr. Howlett, will you please? While he is doing that, Mrs. Paine, I notice there is on your garage floor what looks like a file casing you have for documents similar, at least it seems substantially identical to those that we had in Washington last week.
Mrs. PAINE - This is a filing case similar, yes, slightly different in color to one that you had in Washington. It contains madrigal music. It was on November 22 at the apartment where my husband was living.
Agent HOWLETT - I have just finished searching both shelves and I don't find any other curtain rods.

You are contending that Mr Howlett gave these answers without thinking to mention that he was already perfectly familiar with
-----------these two rods
-----------their current exact location?

Howlett was well aware that he had removed the curtain rods on the 15th and was just going through the motions during the deposition for demonstration purposes. There was no need for him to mention that he was familiar with the two rods and their location because he knew that Jenner was already aware of those facts himself.

[Alan Ford]

Howlett was well aware that he had removed the curtain rods on the 15th and was just going through the motions during the deposition for demonstration purposes. There was no need for him to mention that he was familiar with the two rods and their location because he knew that Jenner was already aware of those facts himself.

So Howlett and Jenner knowingly misled Ms Paine?

Or do you think Ms Paine was in on this little piece of theatre?

[Tim Nickerson]

So Howlett and Jenner knowingly misled Ms Paine?

Or do you think Ms Paine was in on this little piece of theatre?

How did they mislead Mrs Paine?

[Alan Ford]

How did they mislead Mrs Paine?

I'm not saying they did, Mr Nickerson, but it follows from what you're saying:

"Ruth Paine was obviously not aware that the curtain rods had been removed from the garage by Howlett on the 15th."

If Ms Paine is 'obviously' unaware of this, then she appears equally obviously unaware that the curtain rods have at some point since then been restored to the garage by one of the men standing next to her:

Mr. JENNER - Now, Mrs. Paine, one of the things we said we might see is a package that was in your garage containing curtain rods.
Mrs. PAINE - Yes--as you recall.
Mr. JENNER - You said you would leave that package in precisely the place wherever it was last week when you were in Washington, D.C., and have you touched it since you came home?
Mrs. PAINE - I have not touched it.
Mr. JENNER - And is it now in the place it was to the best of your recollection on November 21, 1963?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - Now, would you rise and enter the garage and point out in my presence and in the presence of Mr. Howlett where that package is?

[Bill Chapman]

Not wishing to derail Alan's twist in the curtain rod printing but can anyone show any sign of evidence that CE142 was sealed at both ends?

Still waiting for answers to how many bags were dusted in the TSBD that day and by whom?

When did you start waiting... 12:30-ish, 11/22/63 I'll bet.
Say, why not dust every last box in the TSBD while you're at it..

[Alan Ford]

Now!

This Crime Scene Search Section document, which has reduced our Lone Nutter friends to mortified silence, bears an extremely significant entry:



Those two numbers---------275 & 276----------tell us how and why the fix was put in!

Paine home---Irving---Monday March 23:

Mr JENNER. Miss Reporter, the cream colored curtain rod, we will mark Ruth Paine Exhibit 275 and the white one as Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 276.
(The curtain rods referred to were at this time marked by the reporter as Ruth Paine Exhibit Nos. 275 and 276 for identification.)

Do you see it, friends?

 

Now!

Let's return to the scene of the Paine home, Irving, March 23:

Mr. JENNER - You have testified that the blanket-wrapped package was in turn tied or wrapped with string?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - You think perhaps, around in four places?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - Was the string of the weight and character of that which I have in my hand, that is, this ball of string?
Mrs. PAINE - It could have been that weight or it could have been as heavy as this other short piece that's on the floor.
Mr. JENNER - The short piece which Mrs. Paine has picked up and has exhibited to me, we will mark "Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 270," and we will cut a piece of the other twine or string and mark that as "Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 271."

These are the first numbered 'Ruth Paine Exhibits' to be marked as such this evening.

Question!

Why did Mr Jenner start at 270?

Where did that number come from?

[Bill Chapman]

Nope, Mr Chapman, I'm one of those evidence supporters!

The Lone Nutter cry for years has been, 'If Oswald brought curtain rods rather than the rifle into the building that morning, then show us the money! Where are the damn curtain rods?'

Well, here they are: submitted to Lieutenant J. C. Day for fingerprint analysis on 15 March 1964.

Lone Nutter attempts to explain away
-----------the clearly written 15 March date on the official Crime Scene Search Section document, and
-----------the unimpeachable fact that 2 curtain rods were---------get this-------fingerprinted for comparison with Mr Oswald's known prints
-----------continue to fail!

But by all means, Mr Chapman, keep howling at the moon!

Cut to the quick: Are you claiming that Oswald took curtain rods to work that day.