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Re: The Three People Walking Across The Pergola Patio
« Reply #170 on: July 18, 2019, 12:48:49 AM »
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Dear oh dear Scully,

Mr. Charles?

Oh, my goodness, wasn't George DeMohrenschildt somehow associated with him?

You know, Oswald's much older and presumably wealthier friend whom CI's Clare Edward Petty concluded, based on some decoded WW II Venona intercepts, had been a long-term "KGB" "illegal" since 1938, or so?

Hmm

--  MWT   ;)

My goodness, indeed! I am assuming you still have internet access but are temporarily incommunicado.

Your song does not sound familiar.... perhaps if you were to hum a few bars? At one point it was decided more DeMohrenschildt and Charles was
not none of our business. (bottom paragraph) And who was 3. ....Reckret?

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« Reply #171 on: September 20, 2019, 11:03:16 AM »
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It's quite a challenging juggling act for Kamp, Iacoletti, Giovanna-Zambanini and Unger, et al.

Dark-complected, self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob seems to be the spanner in their works.

-- MWT   ;)

Edited, because I think Linda now believes that the three gals on the Pergola Patio in Towner (and in the two short Darnell clips) are, from left to right, Stella Mae Jacob, Gloria Holt, and Sharon Simmons, and that they are also standing by the Stemmons sign in Zapruder.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about that, Linda. 

--  Tommy  ;)


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« Reply #172 on: September 20, 2019, 11:36:01 PM »
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Edited, because I think Linda now believes that the three gals on the Pergola Patio in Towner (and in the two short Darnell clips) are, from left to right, Stella Mae Jacob, Gloria Holt, and Sharon Simmons, and that they are also standing by the Stemmons sign in Zapruder.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about that, Linda. 

--  Tommy  ;)

Try researching first, then posting second. You do it all backwards and you post first, then you do your "research" last.

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« Reply #173 on: September 21, 2019, 03:58:41 PM »
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Try researching first, then posting second. You do it all backwards and you post first, then you do your "research" last.

Unbearable.

Is that right?

LOL

You aren't Paz Malverde, are you?
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Re: The Three People Walking Across The Pergola Patio
« Reply #174 on: September 21, 2019, 04:33:32 PM »
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There's no doubt the 3 Women seen in Darnell are Jacob, Holt, and Simmons...You can see their faces in the Darnell close-up clearly and, as Mytton correctly points-out, they do line up with where Darnell would have caught up and filmed them as he is seen doing in Towner...For credible analyzers Simmons' blue scarf and Jacob's white skirt make this a confirmed match with the 3 Women in Zapruder...

The suggestion that the man isn't Darnell and that Darnell is another person, even though if Darnell were another person he would have to be seen in Towner due to the timing of the 3 Women being filmed on the Pergola patio, is preposterous and should be strongly rejected and the suggester of such a ludicrous notion should be censured...The gratuitous doubt that appears to be based on seeking attention rather than honestly arguing evidence should be summarily rejected and that poster should somehow not be allowed to continue his irrational denial that is based on clearly faulty logic in my opinion...There is only one way Darnell could get the footage he did of the 3 Women and that would be if he was the man who is running in order to catch up and film those 3 ladies and that is what you see...To ignore the behavioral aspects of Darnell running to catch up to the ladies is to draw uncredibility on the ignore-er...The suggestion that there isn't enough proof that this is so is a false one and the standard of reasonable proof has been met on this particular evidence...Those of us who don't annoy research websites with irrational demands for levels of proof that only satisfy the compulsive need to push the definitions of evidence in to the silly range of pure sophistry understand that this evidence above should now be considered as having proven the issue and we can now safely say the 3 Women in both Zapruder and Darnell have been PROVEN to be Simmons, Holt, and Jacob...The middle woman was identified by her brother to be Gloria Holt...Unger has admitted in public that his label of June Dishong was wrong and the woman in question is Stella Mae Jacob...

In Cabluck you can see Jacob with her arm around Holt who who was visibly shaken up in Darnell after seeing Kennedy shot...Cabluck is far too long after the shots to allow for Holt to be Gloria Calvery, as Karen Westbrook incorrectly identified...So we can now safely say Tall Woman in Zapruder is Gloria Calvery, as her son Chris told me, and that Sandy Larsen and Graves have correctly identified her on the steps...

We can therefore ignore irrational outliers who only seem to be interested in annoying people by denying obvious evidence in its face in order to demand nutty levels of proof in order to satisfy their sophist compulsions...

      The assumption above is that the Sitzman interview was being filmed while these 3 ladies were at the top of the Knoll/near the Pergola. There is absolutely Nothing to verify this claim. As to the suited man running across the Knoll being ID'd as Darnell due to a White object being visible in his (R) front jacket pocket, I would ask that you take a Good Look at the Montesana Film. The portion of that film that shows a dark complected guy with a rifle raised above his head also displays a suited man with a still frame camera on the extreme (L). (If you are looking at a still frame from the film it needs to be Uncropped). This suited man Also has a White Object extending Up/Out of his (R) suit jacket pocket. This man has previously been Identified as being Skaggs. These 2 men are wearing somewhat different dark colored suits, but due to the lack of clarity of the suited man running across the knoll on the Towner Film, it is difficult to discern the true color of his suit. The gist being that inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 there were 2 Suited Men, Both carrying a camera of some kind, and Both having a White Object extending out of their (R) suit jacket pocket.
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« Reply #175 on: September 21, 2019, 04:52:27 PM »
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      The assumption above is that the Sitzman interview was being filmed while these 3 ladies were at the top of the Knoll/near the Pergola. There is absolutely Nothing to verify this claim. As to the suited man running across the Knoll being ID'd as Darnell due to a White object being visible in his (R) front jacket pocket, I would ask that you take a Good Look at the Montesana Film. The portion of that film that shows a dark complected guy with a rifle raised above his head also displays a suited man with a still frame camera on the extreme (L). (If you are looking at a still frame from the film it needs to be Uncropped). This suited man Also has a White Object extending Up/Out of his (R) suit jacket pocket. This man has previously been Identified as being Skaggs. These 2 men are wearing somewhat different dark colored suits, but due to the lack of clarity of the suited man running across the knoll on the Towner Film, it is difficult to discern the exact color of his suit. The gist being that inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 there were 2 Suited Men, Both carrying a camera of some kind, and Both having a White Object extending out of their (R) suit jacket pocket.

Rubbish...This has nothing to do with Sitzman...The man seen running has to be Darnell because the Darnell film with the 3 Women (Simmons, Holt, and Jacob) has a background that could only be filmed by Darnell if he was in that position...Since the man seen running is going directly to that position it has to be Darnell and cannot be anyone else...

That's PROOF and you have failed to give an adequate answer to it...

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Re: The Three People Walking Across The Pergola Patio
« Reply #176 on: September 21, 2019, 07:50:07 PM »
The usual Doyle BS. You donít know where running blob ends up and you donít know when Darnellís clip of the 3 women was taken.

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« Reply #177 on: September 21, 2019, 07:54:46 PM »
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Rubbish...This has nothing to do with Sitzman...The man seen running has to be Darnell because the Darnell film with the 3 Women (Simmons, Holt, and Jacob) has a background that could only be filmed by Darnell if he was in that position...Since the man seen running is going directly to that position it has to be Darnell and cannot be anyone else...

That's PROOF and you have failed to give an adequate answer to it...

   So You now have decided to run away from the story that Darnell had just finished filming the Sitzman interview in front of the shelter and then he ran across the knoll to film those 3 women? So how did Darnell allegedly come to be standing in front of that Pergola shelter and then run across the knoll After he was filming Back in the railroad area and then moved over close to the Elm St Extension where he filmed the TSBD?
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