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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Paging Von P..... Hello Von P....??
« on: February 24, 2019, 03:44:06 PM »
C' mon Vonzie ...Tell us how YOU can determine the caliber, the groove width,  the twist rate, and the proof that the bullet in the photo was fired from the TSBD carcano... 

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You can just skip the BS text....and look at the pretty picture.....

Referring to the pic on the right....How wide is the groove that is clearly visible on the copper jacket....(hint....There is a scale right there....)

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« on: February 24, 2019, 03:44:06 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2019, 03:47:43 PM »
That's what the EXPERTS are paid to do, Cakebread. I'm not an FBI "expert" in firearms. But Robert A. Frazier was in 1963.

What makes YOUR (idiotic) opinion on the bullet fragments so much better and authoritative than the opinion of the firearms expert in the case?

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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2019, 04:13:23 PM »
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That's what the EXPERTS are paid to do, Cakebread. I'm not an FBI "expert" in firearms. But Robert A. Frazier was in 1963.

What makes YOUR (idiotic) opinion on the bullet fragments so much better and authoritative than the opinion of the firearms expert in the case?

Mr Von P...A person does not have to be an expert to measure the width of the groove in the bullet jacket in the photo.....Even you should be able to use the scale provided and find the width of that groove which was made by the lands in the barrel of the rifle from which the bullet was fired.

Can anybody help Vonzie perform this simple task?
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2019, 11:28:34 PM »
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Mr Von P...A person does not have to be an expert to measure the width of the groove in the bullet jacket in the photo.....Even you should be able to use the scale provided and find the width of that groove which was made by the lands in the barrel of the rifle from which the bullet was fired.

Can anybody help Vonzie perform this simple task?

Hey Vonzie....I guess that it's too difficult for you to use the scale and determine dimensions of the bullet Jacket in the picture.....Here's something even a elementary school kid can do.....( so you may? be able to find the simple solution)   

Was the bullet fired from a barrel with a right hand or left hand twist rifling?
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2019, 07:20:12 AM »
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Mr Von P...A person does not have to be an expert to measure the width of the groove in the bullet jacket in the photo.....Even you should be able to use the scale provided and find the width of that groove which was made by the lands in the barrel of the rifle from which the bullet was fired.

Can anybody help Vonzie perform this simple task?

Ballistics experts match a specimen bullet with a sample test bullet using a comparison microscope... not measurements from photographs.

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2019, 01:32:30 PM »
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Ballistics experts match a specimen bullet with a sample test bullet using a comparison microscope... not measurements from photographs.

That's true..... But  they also measur and weigh the bullet....So why don't you humor me and measure the groove width on that jacket......Or aren't you smart enough to read a scale?

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 09:09:06 PM »
Frazier lined up the marks of the mutilated fragments in his mind, even though they did not actually physically line up in the microscope.

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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 09:19:26 PM »
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Frazier lined up the marks of the mutilated fragments in his mind, even though they did not actually physically line up in the microscope.

John, can you use the metric scale provided in the photo and measure the width of the groove on that copper jacket?

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 12:09:38 AM »
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Frazier lined up the marks of the mutilated fragments in his mind, even though they did not actually physically line up in the microscope.

Frazier lined up the marks of the mutilated fragments in his mind,

ROTFLMAO!.....

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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2019, 12:53:50 AM »
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That's true..... But  they also measur and weigh the bullet....So why don't you humor me and measure the groove width on that jacket......Or aren't you smart enough to read a scale?

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Walt,

You cannot humor a man who does not have a sense of humor!

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