Marina's Camera....The Backyard Pictures Revisited

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Offline Steve Logan

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Re: Marina's Camera....The Backyard Pictures Revisited
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2019, 10:57:18 PM »
A young widow, alone with two small children and faced with possible extradition buckling under the pressure of a multitude of interrogations and testifying to what she believes the powers that be want to hear for pure self preservation.

I agree....I believe you hitting the nail....but not quite squarely on the head with full force....

I would add that she was up against a vile inhuman beast who sat at the seat of power as director of the the FBI.   That fiend had sent powerless people like Marina to their executions on trumped up charges....

She may not have known who was holding the lever of the guillotine ....but she damned sure knew her head was in the block....

She may not have known who was holding the lever of the guillotine ....but she damned sure knew her head was in the block....

You're making crap up. Again.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Marina's Camera....The Backyard Pictures Revisited
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2019, 11:01:44 PM »
She may not have known who was holding the lever of the guillotine ....but she damned sure knew her head was in the block....

You're making crap up. Again.

It's a matter of historical record.....No need to make it up.....

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Marina's Camera....The Backyard Pictures Revisited
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2019, 09:20:04 PM »
If 1 is true, it would make no sense for her to burn copies of the photographs as Marguerite requested.
Maybe the same roll of film was used for the other "backyard" photos - the ones Oswald took of General Walker's back yard.   They were taken by the same Imperial Reflex 620 camera based the edge detail of the Walker photograph matching that of Oswald's camera.

What exactly is the evidence that this Imperial Reflex 620 was Oswald's camera?

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Re: Marina's Camera....The Backyard Pictures Revisited
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2019, 01:18:29 PM »
What exactly is the evidence that this Imperial Reflex 620 was Oswald's camera?
Marina said it was Oswald's camera and it was in their possession.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Marina's Camera....The Backyard Pictures Revisited
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2019, 01:58:01 PM »
Marina said it was Oswald's camera and it was in their possession.

Marina's testimony to the HSCA.
"Q. The camera you took them on, was that Lee Harvey Oswald's camera?
A. I believe so.
Q. Was it the same one he had in Russia or a different one, do you know?
A. I don't know, but I do believe it could be the same.

[She doesn't seem exactly sure it was Oswald's camera.]

Q. What did he tell you to do with the camera as far as taking the pictures?
A. He just told me which button to push and I did.
Q. Did you hold it up to your eye and look through the viewer to take the picture?
A. Yes.

Q. And after you took the picture what did you do after you took the first picture?
A. I went into the house and did things I had to attend to.
Q. How many pictures did you take?
A. I think I took two.
Q. When you took the first picture you held it up to your eye?
A. Yes; that is what I recall.

Q. What did you do next?
A. I believe he did something with it and told me to push it again.
Q. The first time you pushed it down to take the picture?
A. Yes.
Q. And the first time, what happened before you took the second picture?
A. He changed his pose.
Q. What I am getting at is, did you give the camera to him so he would move the film forward or did you do that?
A. He did that.
Q. So you took the picture and handed the camera to him?
A. Yes.
Q. What did he do?
A. He said, "Once again," and I did it again.
Q. So he have you back the camera?
A. For the second time; yes.
Q. Did he put the rifle down?

[Strange she didn't remember this to the Warren Commission.]

A. You see, that is the way I remember it.
Q. Did he put the rifle down on the ground between--
A. I don't remember. I was so annoyed with all this procedure so the sooner I could get through, the better, so I don't recollect.
Q. But you do remember taking the picture?
A. Yes; I am the one who took the picture and the weather was right.
Q. What did you say?
A. Somebody speculated the picture couldn't be taken; the weather was wrong.
Q. I am not interested in what people speculated.
A. There is nobody to blame for it but me.
Q. When you took the first picture and you gave him the camera, did you walk over to him and give him the camera or did he walk over to you?
A. I don't remember.
Q. Are these the only two pictures you ever took in your life at least up to that time?
A. Yes.


[Her testimony is not worth a carrot. Her story keeps changing.]

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Marina's Camera....The Backyard Pictures Revisited
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2019, 03:25:23 PM »
Marina's testimony to the HSCA.
"Q. The camera you took them on, was that Lee Harvey Oswald's camera?
A. I believe so.
Q. Was it the same one he had in Russia or a different one, do you know?
A. I don't know, but I do believe it could be the same.

[She doesn't seem exactly sure it was Oswald's camera.]

Q. What did he tell you to do with the camera as far as taking the pictures?
A. He just told me which button to push and I did.
Q. Did you hold it up to your eye and look through the viewer to take the picture?
A. Yes.

Q. And after you took the picture what did you do after you took the first picture?
A. I went into the house and did things I had to attend to.
Q. How many pictures did you take?
A. I think I took two.
Q. When you took the first picture you held it up to your eye?
A. Yes; that is what I recall.

Q. What did you do next?
A. I believe he did something with it and told me to push it again.
Q. The first time you pushed it down to take the picture?
A. Yes.
Q. And the first time, what happened before you took the second picture?
A. He changed his pose.
Q. What I am getting at is, did you give the camera to him so he would move the film forward or did you do that?
A. He did that.
Q. So you took the picture and handed the camera to him?
A. Yes.
Q. What did he do?
A. He said, "Once again," and I did it again.
Q. So he have you back the camera?
A. For the second time; yes.
Q. Did he put the rifle down?

[Strange she didn't remember this to the Warren Commission.]

A. You see, that is the way I remember it.
Q. Did he put the rifle down on the ground between--
A. I don't remember. I was so annoyed with all this procedure so the sooner I could get through, the better, so I don't recollect.
Q. But you do remember taking the picture?
A. Yes; I am the one who took the picture and the weather was right.
Q. What did you say?
A. Somebody speculated the picture couldn't be taken; the weather was wrong.
Q. I am not interested in what people speculated.
A. There is nobody to blame for it but me.
Q. When you took the first picture and you gave him the camera, did you walk over to him and give him the camera or did he walk over to you?
A. I don't remember.
Q. Are these the only two pictures you ever took in your life at least up to that time?
A. Yes.


[Her testimony is not worth a carrot. Her story keeps changing.]

I believe Marina is telling the truth , as best she can recall a trivial event.....   ( Taking a photo of someone isn't exactly a memorable event)

Sure she may appear to be lying because she doesn't remember exact details......But I believe her strong response to questions speaks loud and clear.

Q. But you do remember taking the picture?
A. Yes; I am the one who took the picture and the weather was right.
Q. What did you say?
A. Somebody speculated the picture couldn't be taken; the weather was wrong.
Q. I am not interested in what people speculated.
A. There is nobody to blame for it but me.

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Marina's Camera....The Backyard Pictures Revisited
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2019, 03:27:08 PM »
She may not have known who was holding the lever of the guillotine ....but she damned sure knew her head was in the block....

You're making crap up. Again.

Whew! Gotta catch my breath! I just raced back here after single-handedly persuading my NK "lover" to turn over all NK nukes to
international inspectors and allow 50,000 of them to immediately reside in NK indefinitely, with authorization from my new lover
to travel anywhere, anytime, in NK in groups no greater than a thousand in any unannounced group! Nobel Peace Prize, next?

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Shaneyfelt_Ex_10.pdf


Marina's original business manager, Jim Martin, later recalled that he sold a BYP print, sourced directly from Marina, to
Life Magazine, on Marina's behalf. Martin is backed up by an FBI communication rational readers will likely understand is obscure as
a result of FBI attempt to protect sources and methods! (Hint...this FBI document suppoirts the much later recollection by Jim Martin,
nearly word for word!)



In what I predict will be a futile attempt by me to "call off the dogs," readers are now informed that the above memo is
known to the community, unlike the obscure, Jim Martin (pre-internet era, but not newsgroup era) interview backing up the FBI document.....

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https://newsok.com/article/2413872/a-friend-to-marina-oswald-norman-man-recalls-assassins-widowA
Friend to Marina Oswald Norman Man Recalls Assassin's Widow
DAVID ZIZZO Published: Sun, November 29, 1992


...Martin told the commission Marina seemed to believe her husband alone killed Kennedy.


But his recollection now is, "I don't really think she thought he was guilty. " ....


...While it lasted, being Marina's business manager was a unique experience, Martin said.


He said he sold the photo of Oswald holding a rifle to Life Magazine for $5,000. He said the photo "came directly from her scrapbook" and could not have been altered after the assassination, as some conspiracy theorists allege.


"If it had, it was doctored right after it was taken," Martin said....
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http://www.blackopradio.com/Reference_Three.html

Reference Material Section Three:

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(1964 02/25) FBI Memorandum: C. D. DeLoach to Mr. Mohr (jfk.hood.edu)
Mrs. Bucknell told Wick today that "Life" magazine purchased the
photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald shown with a rifle and a revolver
(which appears on "Life" cover of 2-21-64) from Mrs. Marina Oswald
........
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