Author Topic: Photographic Proof John Templin's Standing Next To "Glasses Woman" In Betzner-3  (Read 6775 times)

Offline John Iacoletti

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Iacoletti,

You don?t need to put my name in every post.

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1)  In your desperation to not have to follow my lead by (gasp) referring to her as "black blouse - black headscarf woman" (or some-such thing),

I don?t give a damn what you call her.

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and your "fortuitously" noticing that she was possibly wearing glasses in that photo, and (hooray!) confirming for yourself by enlarging her face a bit that she really was wearing glasses ...

Nope. I thought she was wearing glasses until I enlarged the photo, at which point I couldn?t tell if she was or not.

Offline Thomas Graves

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If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

Iacoletti,

No, but you wouldn't be here effing-up gullible newbies, those who can't see very well, and even "established researchers" who ... uhh ... can't  think very critically.

-- MWT   ;)
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Offline John Iacoletti

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No, but you wouldn't be here effing-up gullible newbies, those who can't see very well, and even "established researchers" who ... uhh ... can't  think very critically.

Such as yourself?

Offline Thomas Graves

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Because Graves says so?  :D

Iacoletti,

John Templin, Ernest Brandt, Jean Newman, and June Dishong are four of the very few people, along with A. J. Millican and journalists Aurelia Lorenzo, Mary Woodward, Ann Donaldson, and Maggie Brown, and, down the street, the Newmans and the Chisms, that Robin Unger and (in his early map) Don Roberdeau actually got right on the north side of Elm Street sidewalk.  So I'm not the only one who says Templin can be seen standing next to your "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3, and who says Brandt can be seen standing on the other side of Templin in Willis-5.

-- MWT   ;)
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Iacoletti,

You don't need to put my name in every post.

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John Templin, Ernest Brandt, Jean Newman, and June Dishong are four of the very few people, along with A. J. Millican and journalists Aurelia Lorenzo, Mary Woodward, Ann Donaldson, and Maggie Brown, and, down the street, the Newmans and the Chisms, that Robin Unger and (in his early map) Don Roberdeau actually got right on the north side of Elm Street sidewalk.

Your assessment on what they got right or wrong means absolutely nothing.

Offline Thomas Graves

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John Iacoletti denies that it can be proved from the photos and films that his "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3 is  Big-Tall, Black-Blouse And Black-Headscarf-Wearing Woman (Gloria Calvery) in the Zapruder film.

However ...

If he were to were to read Dallas News' November 2012 article https://www.dallasnews.com/news/downtown-dallas/2012/11/22/two-eyewitnesses-reunite-once-a-year-on-anniversary-of-kennedys-death about JFK assassination witnesses Ernest Brandt and John Templin, ...

... and if he were to look at Robin Unger's infamous yellow-labeled Zapruder-151 frame and at Don Roberdeau's Map and find in them (gasp ... correctly-labeled!) Ernest Brand standing next to his (gasp ... correctly labeled!) 21 year-old friend John Templin, ...

... and if he were to look at the people, cars, and background in Betzner-3 and compare them with the people, cars, and background in Willis-5, ...

... Scrolling down until he finds said photos, and then enlarge them to his heart's content --
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bunched3.htm

... taking special care to notice that John Templin is in both Betzner-3 and Willis-5), ...

... and if he were to take into consideration the fact that Hugh Betzner -- whose "Betzner-3" was taken simultaneously with Z-187 and 0.874/second before "Willis-5" -- was standing on the other side of Elm Street, about 30 feet behind and a little to the left of Phil Willis (per Zapruder's LOS at Z-187) on the other side of Elm Street, ...

... and if he were to realize that Robin Unger's seriously mislabeled Zapruder frame is Z-151, and that Betzner-3 was taken simultaneously with Zapruder-187, and that Willis-5 was taken simultaneously with Zapruder-202, ...

... and if he were to realize that Abraham Zapruder can be seen standing on his pedestal and very near the L-R center point of both Willis-3 and Betzner-5 ( http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bunched3.htm ; ignore the red circle around so-called Black Dog Man in Willis-5), ...

... and if he were to realize that both Phil Willis and Hugh Betzner are visible in the background of Unger's yellow-labeled Z-151 frame (or at least in a clearer frame near it), ...

... well gosh, taking all of the above together (I mean he IS capable of doing that sort of thing, isn't he?), ...

... he'd realize that fedora-wearing trilby-wearing Ernest Brandt can be seen standing next to John Templin in Willis-5, and that John Templin can be seen standing next to your "Glasses Woman" (Gloria Calvery) in Betzner-3.

-- MWT  :)

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« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 05:27:33 PM by Thomas Graves »

 

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