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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2019, 09:03:02 PM »
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So there's no reason then to think that Q-74 and Q-77, or Q-74 and Q-75, or Q-75 and Q-77, or the three shells that Gerald Hill described (or whatever the story-du-jour is) were the shells allegedly picked up from the scene by Benavides.

There's no reason to think that Q-75 was a shell picked up by Benavides because that shell was picked up by Virginia Davis,

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 11:22:53 PM »
There's no reason to think that Q-75 was a shell picked up by Benavides because that shell was picked up by Virginia Davis,

There's no reason to think that Q-75 was picked up by Virginia Davis either.

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 11:25:05 PM »
Mr. BALL. Did you put any markings on the hulls?
Mr. POE. I couldn't swear to it; no, sir.


Poe was not a liar.

According to Bill Brown, "Poe said that the shells had been obliterated with markings by himself".  If he knew he didn't mark the shells as Leavelle indicates then Poe was a liar (and/or Leavelle was).

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2019, 03:13:09 AM »
There's no reason to think that Q-75 was picked up by Virginia Davis either.

Actually, there is.

What reason is there to think that Q-75 was not picked up by Virginia Davis? Other than it's just not convenient for you?


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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2019, 03:14:50 AM »
According to Bill Brown, "Poe said that the shells had been obliterated with markings by himself".  If he knew he didn't mark the shells as Leavelle indicates then Poe was a liar (and/or Leavelle was).

That's not accurate. Leavelle said that Poe told him that he didn't remember marking the shells. When Poe talked with Dale Myers in 1996, he thought that he may have marked them but that he couldn't be sure because if he had marked the shells then his initials had been obliterated by marks that had been added after his own. ?There were so many scratches in there you couldn?t tell,...the Crime Scene Search Section put their mark. They were turned into the FBI and they put their mark. The lab put their mark. So, I couldn?t tell mine.?

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2019, 11:02:48 PM »
Actually, there is.

"Dhority supposedly told Odum so" is your good reason?

Unfortunately, Dhority had no first hand knowledge where the shell he identified was even found.

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2019, 11:42:18 PM »
"Dhority supposedly told Odum so" is your good reason?

Unfortunately, Dhority had no first hand knowledge where the shell he identified was even found.

Nope. Dhority was shown the shell casing by Bardwell Odum and he positively identified it as the one that he obtained form Virginia Davis on Nov 22, 1963. 

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2019, 11:54:51 PM »
Nope. Dhority was shown the shell casing by Bardwell Odum and he positively identified it as the one that he obtained form Virginia Davis on Nov 22, 1963.

What do you mean, "nope"?  All you're doing is just restating the claim.