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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2019, 02:13:41 PM »
Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Shell casings do not get that hot. Certainly not hot enough to prevent their being removed without burning one's hand.

Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.


First off... Domingo Benavides DESCRIBED the killer ...And he said the man had his hair cut in a fashion that made the back of his head appear to be flat....Lee Oswald's mug shot shows that he had a very pronounced tapered skull at the rear.....Benavides definitely was NOT describing the back of Lee Oswald's head. 

Second.... You obviously know nothing about the S&W revolver ....The rim of the shells are recessed into the cylinder ...... They can't be merely picked out and removed with your fingers....Since the 38 in question was an old revolver that had been modified to fire 38 special ammo  the chambers in the cylinder were oversize and too large in diameter to hold the 38 special cartridges tightly,... and this sloppy fit allowed the 38 spec cartridges to balloon in the chambers when they were fired. This "ballooning" of the shells caused them to stick in the chambers and made them difficult to extract even by using the extractor, and impossible to remove with your fingers.... 

Bottom line... The killer was NOT Lee Oswald.....and the killer was not using a Smith and Wesson revolver....




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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2019, 05:16:30 PM »
Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Shell casings do not get that hot. Certainly not hot enough to prevent their being removed without burning one's hand.

Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Cortland Cunningham's palm was covered with burned gunpowder when he extracted the spent shells from the S&W revolver.....Lee Oswald had NO gunpowder residue on his hands.... There was only a TRACE of nitrates..... And the  nitrites could have came from dozens of sources.

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2019, 06:09:59 PM »
Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.


First off... Domingo Benavides DESCRIBED the killer ...And he said the man had his hair cut in a fashion that made the back of his head appear to be flat....Lee Oswald's mug shot shows that he had a very pronounced tapered skull at the rear.....Benavides definitely was NOT describing the back of Lee Oswald's head. 

Second.... You obviously know nothing about the S&W revolver ....The rim of the shells are recessed into the cylinder ...... They can't be merely picked out and removed with your fingers....Since the 38 in question was an old revolver that had been modified to fire 38 special ammo  the chambers in the cylinder were oversize and too large in diameter to hold the 38 special cartridges tightly,... and this sloppy fit allowed the 38 spec cartridges to balloon in the chambers when they were fired. This "ballooning" of the shells caused them to stick in the chambers and made them difficult to extract even by using the extractor, and impossible to remove with your fingers.... 

Bottom line... The killer was NOT Lee Oswald.....and the killer was not using a Smith and Wesson revolver....

Since the S&W holds six cartridges and all cartridges are removed in a single stroke of the extractor then simply math tells us that something is not right about the tale of Tippit's murder.... 

There is controversy about the number of shots fired by the killer..... Some reports say there were more than four bullets fired at Tippit.....But only three spent shells were recovered at the scene.....  The S&W revolver extracts all shells , whether spent or live, when the extractor is pushed.   So there may be as many as three spent shells unaccounted for.....  If the gun had been a S&W then it's highly unlikely that those shells wouldn't have been found near the scene just as the three that allegedly were found at the scene.   

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2019, 11:43:47 PM »
Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.


First off... Domingo Benavides DESCRIBED the killer ...And he said the man had his hair cut in a fashion that made the back of his head appear to be flat....Lee Oswald's mug shot shows that he had a very pronounced tapered skull at the rear.....Benavides definitely was NOT describing the back of Lee Oswald's head. 

Second.... You obviously know nothing about the S&W revolver ....The rim of the shells are recessed into the cylinder ...... They can't be merely picked out and removed with your fingers....Since the 38 in question was an old revolver that had been modified to fire 38 special ammo  the chambers in the cylinder were oversize and too large in diameter to hold the 38 special cartridges tightly,... and this sloppy fit allowed the 38 spec cartridges to balloon in the chambers when they were fired. This "ballooning" of the shells caused them to stick in the chambers and made them difficult to extract even by using the extractor, and impossible to remove with your fingers.... 

Bottom line... The killer was NOT Lee Oswald.....and the killer was not using a Smith and Wesson revolver....

I just read something interesting in a document about Lee Oswald's arrest.......There were three live cartridges in the revolver that ALLEGEDLY was taken from Lee in the theater....What's interesting is the fact that Tippit's killer was NOT Lee Oswald, and the killer was NOT using a S&W revolver.....  But THREE spent shells were found at the scene and there were THREE live rounds in the S&W revolver.......  And three of Hoover's "Extra Special, special agents were in the theater at the time...


I just read something interesting in a document about Lee Oswald's arrest.......



Notice that THREE cartridges were recovered......

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2019, 12:41:01 AM »
I just read something interesting in a document about Lee Oswald's arrest.......There were three live cartridges in the revolver that ALLEGEDLY was taken from Lee in the theater....What's interesting is the fact that Tippit's killer was NOT Lee Oswald, and the killer was NOT using a S&W revolver.....  But THREE spent shells were found at the scene and there were THREE live rounds in the S&W revolver.......  And three of Hoover's "Extra Special, special agents were in the theater at the time...

There were SIX live rounds in the S&W revolver that was removed from Oswald's possession in the Texas Theatre, not just three.

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2019, 02:42:17 PM »
There were SIX live rounds in the S&W revolver that was removed from Oswald's possession in the Texas Theatre, not just three.

That's NOT what this DPD Supplementary Offense Report says...... The report says....

"At 3:30 pm Capt Fritz  of the Homocide Bureau advised officers to take the 38  S&W snubnose (ser # 510210) that was used in the shooting and three live 38 shells and also turned these over to Capt Doughty"
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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2019, 09:39:35 PM »
That's debatable, depending on whether you want to play word games.

The case has been very clearly laid out as to how the shells are authentic, a point that these two clowns fail to grasp.  Both Dhority and Doughty would testify that the shells in evidence are the shells turned over to them by each of the Davis sisters.

Setting aside the fact that the Davis sisters-in-law couldn't identify them as the same shells, how do you know the shells that the Davis sisters-in-law allegedly handed to Dougherty and Doughty had anything to do with Tippit's murder?

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2019, 10:24:46 PM »
Setting aside the fact that the Davis sisters-in-law couldn't identify them as the same shells, how do you know the shells that the Davis sisters-in-law allegedly handed to Dougherty and Doughty had anything to do with Tippit's murder?

We have to ASSUME that the shells that Benavides and the girls found were from the killer's gun.....  But we also have to ASSUME that the shells presented to the WC are the same shells that were picked up at the murder scene.   

And while I do believe that Benavides and the Davis girls found a couple of shells at the scene....I seriously doubt that the shells that were presented to the WC are those same shells.