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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #200 on: February 28, 2019, 03:16:00 AM »
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Give us a way of knowing for sure that the shirt didn't move up

"Ok, the jacket was bunched up...but the shirt wasn't." -- CT logic

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
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Offline Brent Moldenhauer

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #201 on: February 28, 2019, 09:15:39 AM »
Nothing magic about a generic face sheet drawing not matching Kennedy's body.
Nothing magic about Kennedy's back brace; nor multiple photographs taken along the parade route revealing the constant bunching of Kennedy's suit coat.

Its not what the face sheet doesnt match that is the issue. It pretty much matches everything but the autopsy report. When a qualified pathologist who must be very familiar with the human anatomy cannot put a dot in the lower neck instead of in the back but places where all the other evidence puts it, does that not seem strange?

Can you show me a photograph in Dealey Plaza that shows JFKs shirt and jacket bunching up to the extent that holes in both garments, approx 5 and a half inches down from the collar, could cause a wound in the lower neck?

Just how does a shirt that is tucked in to the pants, and fastened at the collar, ride up to that extent? We are not talking about someone who put on his brothers hand me down shirt, we are talking about a man who had his clothes made to measure. I have tried it and sat in a car, with off the peg jacket and shirts, some too bag, some just right and some too small, and I cannot replicate it. 2 inches is the absolute best I could do and that was by deliberately sliding down in the seat.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #202 on: February 28, 2019, 09:39:02 AM »
"Ok, the jacket was bunched up...but the shirt wasn't." -- CT logic

"O.K. The jacket bunched up, therefore the shirt must have bunched up as well" LN logic.

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Offline Duncan MacRae

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #203 on: February 28, 2019, 11:31:19 AM »
Can you show me a photograph in Dealey Plaza that shows JFKs shirt and jacket bunching up to the extent that holes in both garments, approx 5 and a half inches down from the collar, could cause a wound in the lower neck?
         


And don't forget the back brace which he was wearing that day.


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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #204 on: February 28, 2019, 11:32:48 AM »


And don't forget the back brace which he was wearing that day.


Please isolate the part of the gif which shows the shirt bunched up.

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Offline Duncan MacRae

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #205 on: February 28, 2019, 11:41:23 AM »
Please isolate the part of the gif which shows the shirt bunched up.
Unfortunately I don't have X-Ray vision, but, here's a clue as to why his shirt was bunched up which I posted on edit after you had responded with your request.


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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #206 on: February 28, 2019, 11:43:40 AM »
Unfortunately I don't have X-Ray vision, but, here's a clue as to why his shirt was bunched up which I posted on edit after you had responded with your request.



The photo of him in his back brace doesn't show his shirt bunching up either. So the gif doesn't show his shirt and jacket bunching up. Got it.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2019, 11:44:54 AM by Ray Mitcham »

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Offline Duncan MacRae

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #207 on: February 28, 2019, 12:16:38 PM »
The photo of him in his back brace doesn't show his shirt bunching up either. So the gif doesn't show his shirt and jacket bunching up. Got it.

Ok Ray, you know best  ::) Best regards to Waldo  ;D