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Online Royell Storing

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2019, 01:34:59 AM »
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None of that is specific enough to make inferences regarding its relation to a particular vertebra. The measurements are the most important?T1 is the most consistent (see Pat Speer?s replication using a man of JFK?s measurements).

              As much as some of you would like to complicate/muddle the issue, it really is Very Simple. (1) The Autopsy Face Sheet has a dot on JFK's Back to show the location of the Back Wound. (2) The Autopsy Photo(s) display the JFK Back Wound/Where the wound is located. (3) The Back of JFK's Dress Coat has a bullet hole in it. (4) The Back of JFK's Dress Shirt has a bullet hole in it. All 4 of these pieces of evidence corroborate each other by displaying the JFK Back Wound in the Same Location on his back.  These 4 independent pieces of corroborating physical evidence leave no question as to the location of the JFK Back Wound.   
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2019, 01:39:58 AM »
              As much as some of you would like to complicate/muddle the issue, it really is Very Simple. (1) The Autopsy Face Sheet has a dot on JFK's Back to show the location of the Back Wound. (2) The Autopsy Photo(s) display the JFK Back Wound/Where the wound is located. (3) The Back of JFK's Dress Coat has a bullet hole in it. (4) The Back of JFK's Dress Shirt has a bullet hole in it. All 4 of these pieces of evidence corroborate each other by having the JFK Back Wound in the Same Location on his back.  These 4 independent pieces of corroborating physical evidence leave no question as to the location of the JFK Back Wound.   

Excellent Post, Royell.... It's impossible to present a plausible rebuttal to the points you make in your post .... 

Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2019, 01:44:11 AM »
The language is admittedly dramatic. NAA as a method isn?t pseudoscience, but Guin?s usage of it in the JFK and other cases seems to fit the citeria?mainly overblown statements of certainty/accuracy and erroneously stating the extent to which the results were sknficant and specific to individual samples. Canning?s trajectory analysis was based two big faulty premises: bullets travel in straight lines and the SBT happened at Z190?he also overstated the significance of his tests.   

I agree with you about the Single bullet strike not occurring at Z190 but since when do bullets not travel in straight lines through air?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2019, 01:54:21 AM »
I agree with you about the Single bullet strike not occurring at Z190 but since when do bullets not travel in straight lines through air?

since when do bullets not travel in straight lines through air?

Since Some genius discovered that an apple falling from a tree falls due to the effect of gravity......  Bullets have NEVER traveled in a straight line.

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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2019, 05:26:13 AM »
  a tendency to distrust or be skeptical 
What's wrong with being skeptical? If there were no liars, there would be no lies.
Oct 2, 1964 issue of Life magazine. ..."The Warren Report-Piecing Together the Evidence"
If the pieces didn't quite fit, that was OK. Just trim a little here and there. I just re-discovered another perplexing item. This was submitted as evidence in the Report...Why?

 

Marina was still a citizen of the USSR. She would not need a visa to return to the Soviet Union. She would need a visa to return to the USA if she did not obtain what is called 'advanced parole'. What about the daughter? The daughter would get to go. The daughter was a citizen of the Soviet Union...she was born in the USSR. There was an obvious charade going on there.

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2019, 05:28:54 AM »
I agree with you about the Single bullet strike not occurring at Z190 but since when do bullets not travel in straight lines through air?

       Obviously you were Never employed by the military as a sniper. Good thing.

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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2019, 01:39:46 PM »
              As much as some of you would like to complicate/muddle the issue, it really is Very Simple. (1) The Autopsy Face Sheet has a dot on JFK's Back to show the location of the Back Wound. (2) The Autopsy Photo(s) display the JFK Back Wound/Where the wound is located. (3) The Back of JFK's Dress Coat has a bullet hole in it. (4) The Back of JFK's Dress Shirt has a bullet hole in it. All 4 of these pieces of evidence corroborate each other by displaying the JFK Back Wound in the Same Location on his back.  These 4 independent pieces of corroborating physical evidence leave no question as to the location of the JFK Back Wound.   

All those four data suggest is that JFK had a bullet in his back?nobody is disputing that. They aren?t specific to where. Exactly why you ignore the measurements and Speer?s experiment which indicate a wound closer to T1.   

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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2019, 01:45:38 PM »
What's wrong with being skeptical?

Nothing inherently. Though I?m referring to an excessive and unhealthy variant directed solely at one?s opposition. The question of conspiracy is interesting to debate, though it is absolutely the case most CT claims are nonsense (e.g. the shallow back wound isn?t even physically possible).