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Re: Headshot bullet
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2019, 07:37:50 PM »
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There's been a book.
There's been lawsuits.
There's been a movie.
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    Not sure how you would consider "A Book", "A Movie", or "Lawsuits" as qualifying as DISCUSSION on the AR-15 issue. The Book and Movie are 1 sided Presentations, while the law suits pertain to The Law.

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2019, 11:42:25 PM »
     When 3 shots are fired from the TSBD into-the-wind from a height of 6 stories, and a gunpowder odor is smelled all the way down Elm St close to the Triple Underpass, in addition to being smelled at the Railroad Overpass which extends across the Stemmons Fwy On-Ramp, that gunpowder odor is Not emanating from the TSBD.
You may be right. What do you base that on?  Many people on Elm St. said they smelled a gunpowder smell.  They were some distance from any gun, regardless of where you think it was.  Barrel gases are moving pretty fast when they leave the muzzle and they are rather concentrated.

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Re: Headshot bullet
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2019, 12:07:46 AM »
You may be right. What do you base that on?  Many people on Elm St. said they smelled a gunpowder smell.  They were some distance from any gun, regardless of where you think it was.  Barrel gases are moving pretty fast when they leave the muzzle and they are rather concentrated.

Barrel gases are moving pretty fast when they leave the muzzle and they are rather concentrated.

Yes you're right...BUT they are hot gases.......They cool and shrink and dissipate rapidly and they are not a solid so they don't travel far ......

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Re: Headshot bullet
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2019, 12:43:19 AM »
You may be right. What do you base that on?  Many people on Elm St. said they smelled a gunpowder smell.  They were some distance from any gun, regardless of where you think it was.  Barrel gases are moving pretty fast when they leave the muzzle and they are rather concentrated.

     How far were these people from the AR-15 that was inside the Queen Mary as it traveled down Elm St? Plus, SA Hickey had the AR-15 raised UP in the back seat while the car was in Motion.
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Re: Headshot bullet
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2019, 01:25:09 AM »
     How far were these people from the AR-15 that was inside the Queen Mary as it traveled down Elm St? Plus, SA Hickey had the AR-15 raised UP in the back seat while the car was in Motion.

SA Hickey had the AR-15 raised UP in the back seat while the car was in Motion.

Yes, you're right,  Hickey pulled out the AR AFTER the shooting....  There isn't a photo that shows Hickey with a weapon prior to, or during the shooting....And no witness reported seeing Hickey with a weapon during the shooting...  The muzzle blast from an AR-15 would definitely have drew some attention....

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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2019, 04:59:19 AM »
SA Hickey had the AR-15 raised UP in the back seat while the car was in Motion.

Yes, you're right,  Hickey pulled out the AR AFTER the shooting....  There isn't a photo that shows Hickey with a weapon prior to, or during the shooting....And no witness reported seeing Hickey with a weapon during the shooting...  The muzzle blast from an AR-15 would definitely have drew some attention....

      With regard to the AR-15 muzzle blast Not drawing attention, there are many things that also were allegedly in motion that also failed to draw anyone's attention and were Not captured on Any of the Images taken before, during, or immediately following the Kill Shot.  #1 would be SA Lem Johns jumping out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car and running down Elm St toward the LBJ Convertible. Not a single eyewitness on Elm St saw the alleged action of Lem Johns jumping out of a car in the JFK Motorcade and then running down the middle of Elm St. This extended action also is Not on 1 single assassination Image taken that day. There was only 1 car separating/between The Queen Mary which carried the AR-15 and the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car carrying SA Lem Johns. If eyewitnesses could miss seeing Lem Johns doing his thing in the middle of Elm St, they could also easily miss an AR-15 muzzle blast INSIDE the confines of the Queen Mary. 
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Re: Headshot bullet
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2019, 08:42:41 AM »
Nobody on Elm street would have smelled the gunsmoke if the shots had been fired from six stories up and 150 feet to the rear of the Lincoln....

Agree  entirely,  Walt.  In addition, several films and photos during the assassination document that the wind was blowing northeastward;  blowing  from  the triple overpass,  towards  the Depository.  (and the 12:30 P.M. Dallas weather documented at, IIRC,  Love Field,  also documents the northeastward blowing wind)
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Re: Headshot bullet
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2019, 02:11:15 PM »
Based on trajectory and the disintegration of the bullet, I?ve never been convinced that the head-shot originated from the Book Depository.