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Online John Iacoletti

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You put those words in quotes
I didn't say them therefore you faked them as mine.
You are not allowed to twist what I said

Changing the verb tense to form a grammatically correct sentence is not twisting or faking anything.  And you still avoid the question.  You said:

"Your species seems overjoyed with Whaley's observation and have practically declared the little snot innocent".

Please provide an example of anybody in my species (whatever the hell you mean by that) doing either of these things.

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Online Bill Chapman

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And by "on the scene", you mean somewhere in the TSBD building?  That's useful.

Relevance?

Apparently no one saw Oswald at 12:30, so yeah, that's useful

Oswald had a jacket on at the Tippit scene.
I thought you said the lineup was unfair
Why wouldn't you want him dressed as he was at the Tippit scene?

Oh, wait...

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Apparently no one saw Oswald at 12:30, so yeah, that's useful

Not useful at all.  There were at least 6 other people in the TSBD alone who nobody saw at 12:30.

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Oswald had a jacket on at the Tippit scene.

Uh, you haven't demonstrated that Oswald was at the "Tippit scene".

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I thought you said the lineup was unfair

It was.

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Why wouldn't you want him dressed as he was at the Tippit scene?

Nobody in the lineup was wearing a jacket.  What's your point?

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Oh, wait...

Maybe you'll stumble onto a point eventually.

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Online Bill Chapman

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Not useful at all.  There were at least 6 other people in the TSBD alone who nobody saw at 12:30.
>>> They had alibis. Oswald had lies. Well Oswald was not completely inside the building @12:30

Uh, you haven't demonstrated that Oswald was at the "Tippit scene".
>>> Uh, others have.

It was.
>>> No it wasn't. Showing Oswald in only a T-shirt was more than fair to him since he was wearing a jacket @Tippit

Nobody in the lineup was wearing a jacket.  What's your point?
>>> See above

Maybe you'll stumble onto a point eventually.
>>> See above
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Online Bill Chapman

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Changing the verb tense to form a grammatically correct sentence is not twisting or faking anything.  And you still avoid the question.  You said:

"Your species seems overjoyed with Whaley's observation and have practically declared the little snot innocent".

Please provide an example of anybody in my species (whatever the hell you mean by that) doing either of these things.

Your grammar sucks: Show us where "overjoyment" is an actual word, Professor.
And tell us which of the many meanings of the word practically you are applying here.

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> Evidence of this "overjoyment"?  Or this "practical declaration"?
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@Lurkers: I said overjoyed and practically declared
 I used the for-all-intents-and-purposes meaning of the word 'practically'
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« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 06:09:17 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Online John Iacoletti

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>>> They had alibis. Oswald had lies. Well Oswald was not completely inside the building @12:30

Add “alibi” to the list of terms that Chapman doesn’t understand.

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Uh, you haven't demonstrated that Oswald was at the "Tippit scene".
>>> Uh, others have.

Uh, no they haven’t.

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>>> No it wasn't. Showing Oswald in only a T-shirt was more than fair to him since he was wearing a jacket @

You think that somehow makes a lineup “fair”?

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Let’s see how many pages Chapman will go on like this, avoiding giving an answer.

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Online Ray Mitcham

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Your grammar sucks: Show us where "overjoyment" is an actual word, Professor.
And tell us which of the many meanings of the word practically you are applying here.


 

Seems this company uses it so it must be a pukka word.

Mastercraft Trampoline Customer Overjoyment Team

https://mastercrafttrampoline.com/contact-us


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Online Tom Scully

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Re: Lincoln Assassination Status: a Still Open or Reopenable FBI Investigation?
« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2019, 04:55:18 AM »
Am I correctly comprehending this? This museum maintains the greater public interest is not to make a tiny sliver of
bone in its collection available for DNA testing which will destroy the bone sample, for the purpose of confirming for all
time whether John Wilkes Booth was indeed captured and killed in 1865?

"If the man who killed our greatest president got away and a giant hoax was perpetrated on the American people, then we should know about it," he said.

Orlowek, 53, has trailed Booth through the reports of witnesses who claimed another man was shot at the farm: James William Boyd or John William Boyd, who bore a striking resemblance to the assassin and by some accounts was sought for the murder of a Union captain.

He's followed the trail of carnivals that exhibited the mummified body of a man the barkers claimed was John Wilkes Booth. And he's sought clues from descendants and interviewed forensic pathologists, authors and lawyers.

His conclusion? Booth escaped 145 years ago to live in Granbury, Texas, as John St. Helen, then changed his name to David E. George and moved to what is now Enid, Okla. He worked there as an itinerant painter before poisoning himself.

George's mummified remains were allegedly last seen at a carnival in New Hope in 1976.

Would the National Archive be willing to cooperate?:

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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/michaelis.htm
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Mr. BALL. Can you tell me what your business custom was in March of 1963 with reference to the preparing of invoices, original invoice and copies, and shipping an item which had been ordered by mail?
Mr. MICHAELIS. The order received by mail is written up and invoiced in quadruplicate on a snap-out form. The first white copy remains in the office and is filed on a numerical order.
The second copy is used as a packing slip whereby the upper part of the invoice is torn off and used as a shipping label and the lower part used as a packing slip.
The third copy is filed permanently in the office under the name of the respective customer after the order has been shipped.
The fourth copy is the acknowledgment of the order copy and lists on the back side a statement which has to be signed by the respective customer.
Mr. BALL. What statement?
Mr. MICHAELIS. A statement to the effect, I believe that it said that the buyer states that he is a citizen of the United States, and that he has never been convicted in any court of the United States, territories, possessions, et cetera. Do you want me----
Mr. BALL. Well, now, this fourth copy that has on the back this statement by the customer, is that mailed to the customer?
Mr. MICHAELIS. It is mailed to the customer, but not .in this particular case. Indicated on the invoice are three X's, which indicates that we have already a statement to this effect on file because this particular mail order coupon has already the statement, and the name of the witness.
Mr. BALL. Now, the particular mail-order coupon that you refer to is Commission No. 135, and it has on it the statement required together with the witness?
Mr. MICHAELIS. With the witness; that's right.
Mr. BALL. And that witness' name is what?
Mr. MICHAELIS. Well, I identify it as D-r-i-t-t-a-l.
Mr. BALL. That's right. You are right.
Mr. MICHAELIS. Yes.
........

Unlike Klein's Sporting Goods, and possibly because a witness statement required for a M.O. handgun purchase was not required to purchase an M.O. rifle,
the original revolver order coupon may exist in the archive, relatively unhandled, unless the FBI laboratory obliterated possible DNA evidence.

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0268a.htm


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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26223937
J Forensic Sci. 2016 Jan;61(1):26-34. doi: 10.1111/1556-4029.12848. Epub 2015 Jul 30.
DNA Analysis and Document Examination: The Impact of Each Technique on Respective Analyses.
Parsons L1, Sharfe G2, Vintiner S1.
Author information
Abstract
Threatening letters, counterfeit documents, and anonymous notes can commonly be encountered in criminal situations. Such handwritten documents may encourage DNA to transfer from the writer's hands and lower arms when these areas come into contact with the document. As any DNA transferred is likely to be at a low level, sensitive low copy number (LCN) DNA analysis can be employed for testing document exhibits. In this study, we determine locations on the document that are most commonly touched during writing and handling and compare DNA recovery from these sites. We describe the impact of DNA sampling on subsequent document examination techniques including the ESDA(®) and likewise the effect of the ESDA(®) and two other document examination techniques on subsequent DNA analysis. The findings from this study suggest that DNA results can be obtained through targeted sampling of document evidence, but that care is required when ordering these examination strategies.

© 2015 American Academy of Forensic Sciences.....

Does the original letter or envelope described as follows, exist? If so, where? I doubt either is a Commission Exhibit, since it seems so far, it was only discovered in November, 2019. Greater odds of obtaining DNA from licked envelope or back of postage stamp. :

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62271&relPageId=172&search=%22east_eighth%22




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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Lincoln Assassination Status: a Still Open or Reopenable FBI Investigation?
« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2019, 07:01:50 PM »
contains very strong evidence in support of the old belief that Booth did escape and live many years after the assassination of President Lincoln,? Burns wrote. Was the agency?s director really among the believers? The file offers no further details. (~snip~)[/b]

A word of thanks to you, Mr Scully, for the important work you are doing here in probing the JFK assassination case-------------your results-focused approach offers a refreshing contrast to the unproductive efforts of those who seek to distract Forum members with irrelevant questions about Mr Oswald's whereabouts at the time of the shooting.

You are, Sir, without doubt the greatest JFK assassination researcher since at least the JFK assassination, and I look forward to seeing your groundbreaking work on this thread Cited In Books in the near future!  Thumb1:

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Re: Lincoln Assassination Status: a Still Open or Reopenable FBI Investigation?
« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2019, 07:01:50 PM »

 

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