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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2019, 07:08:09 PM »
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It depends on what the bullet looked like and its dimensions and its condition.  It did not necessarily hit sideways.  If the bullet was large diameter and yawing it could have made that kind of entry wound - or if the bullet was deformed.  In the case of CE399 which is 2.8 cm long and undamaged, in order to make a 3 cm wound BC's back wound due to tumbling it would have to hit side-on.

WCC 6.5mm bullets are actually 3 cm long. But you're correct in acknowledging that in order to make a 3 cm wound in Connally's back it would have had to have been tumbling. I'll take that as your use of Olivier's testimony as being inoperative.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2019, 08:18:23 PM »
Why do people say its an official truth?
The Warren Commission didn't.
The Report states -----
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The Warren Commission found "persuasive evidence from the experts" that a single bullet caused the President's neck wound and all the wounds found in Governor Connally. It acknowledged that there was a "difference of opinion" among members of the Commission "as to this probability", but stated that the theory was not essential to its conclusions and that all members had no doubt that all shots were fired from the sixth-floor window of the Depository building.
So there you have it.... If the Report claimed it then it became evidence and therefor truth ;)
 

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2019, 08:34:35 PM »
The Report states -----  So there you have it.... If the Report claimed it then it became evidence and therefor truth ;)
 

You have to go where the evidence takes you. The evidence leads to the SBT.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2019, 08:41:18 PM »
  The evidence leads to the SBT.
Isn't that what I posted? :-\ One question--  If it's truth, why is it still called a theory?

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2019, 09:05:09 PM »
Isn't that what I posted? :-\ One question--  If it's truth, why is it still called a theory?

Whenever I refer to it as "fact", some CTs get all vexed over it. I have no problem with referring to it as the Single Bullet theory.

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Online Steve Howsley

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2019, 09:19:42 PM »
The reason it is still talked about is that in order to believe that it was not fired at the President's car one would have to believe in a broad conspiracy that involved someone who:
1. created the bullet by firing it with Oswald's gun before the assassination for a reason that is not readily apparent.
2. knew before hand that there would be a bullet that passed through at least one person without striking bone and that could not later be found
2. went to all the trouble of getting into Parkland Hospital and planting it in or near Gov. Connally's stretcher, for reasons that are not readily apparent
3. relied on someone to discover it in circumstances where it could be traced to Gov. Connally's stretcher, or not, for reasons not readily apparent

Since there is not only no evidence of the above but no rational theory whereby it even begins to make any sense, the possibility that it is not a bullet fired by the MC during the assassination is one that does not loom very large in the opinion of most reasonable people who have considered the evidence.

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2019, 09:52:52 PM »
Whenever I refer to it as "fact", some CTs get all vexed over it. I have no problem with referring to it as the Single Bullet theory.

I prefer 'The Twofer'

Seriously. But the SBT is still a theory legally
It'll always be a theory since there will never be a trial

And it's a brand name by now
Like referring to facial tissue as Kleenex

Or referring to any bolt-action rifle as a Mauser
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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2019, 10:46:38 PM »
The reason it is still talked about is that in order to believe that it was not fired at the President's car one would have to believe in a broad conspiracy that involved someone who:  created the bullet by firing it with Oswald's gun before the assassination for a reason that is not readily apparent.
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  ?there is my absolute knowledge that ? one bullet caused the president?s first wound and that an entirely separate shot struck me. It is a certainty. I will never change my mind.? It was John Connally?s testimony that persuaded one of the Warren Commissioners, Senator Richard Russell, that the single?bullet theory was untenable
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Nellie Connally: ?I turned over my right shoulder and looked back, and saw the President as he had both hands at his neck. ? Then very soon there was the second shot that hit John?
Testimony ignored. There were 4 escort motorcycle police riding beside the limo--not one of them were called to testify. Now why is it impossible for someone to have fired a shot from CE-139 into a pillow and then plant the bullet as needed to implicate Oswald?
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Mr. SPECTER. But, you don't remember whether you told him it was A you took off of the elevator?
Mr. TOMLINSON. I think it was A---I'm not really sure.
Mr. SPECTER. Which did you tell the Secret Service agent--that you thought it was A that you took off of the elevator?
Mr. TOMLINSON. Really, I couldn't be real truthful in saying I told him this or that.
Mr. SPECTER. You just don't remember for sure whether you told him you thought it was A or not?
Mr. TOMLINSON. No, sir; I really don't remember. I'm not accustomed to being questioned by the Secret Service and the FBI and by you and they are writing down everything, I mean.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/tomlinso.htm
After 4 months of preparation, Darrell Tomlinson still failed to provide the testimony that Arlen Specter really needed...the absolute certainty of just where he had found that bullet.
So, worship the golden calf along with the infantile.