Did Lee Oswald know....??

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Lee Oswald know....??
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2019, 02:45:02 PM »

By 12:34 Dallas police had received statement shots came from TSBD

By 12:36 ?.by the 5th floor of TSBD

By 12:37 "Get some men up here to cover this school depository building. It's believed the shot came from, as you see it on Elm Street, it would be upper right hand corner, second window from the end."

"Can you give us any information as to what happened for these people out here, evidently they had - seriousness of it - the President involved - 1 is at Parkland, along with Dallas 1. We have word it is unknown - Texas Depository Store, corner of Elm and Field - officers are now surrounding and searching the building. (Garbled)"

By 12:45 "Attention Elm and Houston is reported to be an unknown white male, all squads. Attention all squads. The suspect in the shooting at approximately thirty, slender build, height five feet ten inches, weight one hundred sixty-five pounds, reported to be armed with what is thought to be a 30 caliber rifle..........He's thought to be in this Texas School Book Depository, here on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston."

By 12:47 "Signal 19, involving the President. Suspect: white male, thirty, slender build, five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty-five pounds, believed to have used 30 caliber rifle. Believed to be in the old School Book Depository, Elm and Houston, at this time."

By 1:12 three shell cases are found on 6th floor SN. Minutes later the 6.5 mm MC c2766 is found on the NW corner of the 6th floor.

Find for me anywhere else other than the TSBD that DPD was looking for JFK's shooter. You also just ignore Fritz questioning Oswald about his whereabouts when POTUS was shot during his first interrogation. This has already been covered in a previous post. Also, since Oswald WAS the shooter nobody needed to remind him of it.


12:45 "Attention Elm and Houston is reported to be an unknown white male, all squads. Attention all squads. The suspect in the shooting at approximately thirty, slender build, height five feet ten inches, weight one hundred sixty-five pounds, reported to be armed with what is thought to be a 30 caliber rifle..........He's thought to be in this Texas School Book Depository, here on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston."

By 12:47 "Signal 19, involving the President. Suspect: white male, thirty, slender build, five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty-five pounds, believed to have used 30 caliber rifle. Believed to be in the old School Book Depository, Elm and Houston, at this time."

The information in these DPD radio broadcasts came from Howard Brennan.... 

Howard Brennan wrote a sworn affidavit about an hour after the shooting. In that affidavit he wrote: ...quote..." I then saw this man I have described in the window and he was taking with a high powered rifle. I could see all of the barrel of the gun" ...Unquote

The barrel of a mannlicher carcano is cover by a full length wooden stock.

Brennan said he could see all of the barrel of the "HIGH POWERED RIFLE" ....Many people call big game hunting rifles "high powered rifles" 

When Brennan was asked if he knew what kind of rifle the 35 year old, 175 pound,  man  man was armed with .....He said it might have been a 30 -30 Winchester ( a high powered rifle) And that's what was broadcast over the police radio.

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Re: Did Lee Oswald know....??
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2019, 03:41:26 PM »

12:45 "Attention Elm and Houston is reported to be an unknown white male, all squads. Attention all squads. The suspect in the shooting at approximately thirty, slender build, height five feet ten inches, weight one hundred sixty-five pounds, reported to be armed with what is thought to be a 30 caliber rifle..........He's thought to be in this Texas School Book Depository, here on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston."

By 12:47 "Signal 19, involving the President. Suspect: white male, thirty, slender build, five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty-five pounds, believed to have used 30 caliber rifle. Believed to be in the old School Book Depository, Elm and Houston, at this time."

The information in these DPD radio broadcasts came from Howard Brennan.... 

Howard Brennan wrote a sworn affidavit about an hour after the shooting. In that affidavit he wrote: ...quote..." I then saw this man I have described in the window and he was taking with a high powered rifle. I could see all of the barrel of the gun" ...Unquote

The barrel of a mannlicher carcano is cover by a full length wooden stock.

Brennan said he could see all of the barrel of the "HIGH POWERED RIFLE" ....Many people call big game hunting rifles "high powered rifles" 

When Brennan was asked if he knew what kind of rifle the 35 year old, 175 pound,  man  man was armed with .....He said it might have been a 30 -30 Winchester ( a high powered rifle) And that's what was broadcast over the police radio.

And what does your reply have to do with Oswald being innocent because he said he was in the building? Nothing....it's just a really bad attempt at deflection. The classic red herring.

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Re: Did Lee Oswald know....??
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2019, 07:11:42 PM »
And what does your reply have to do with Oswald being innocent because he said he was in the building? Nothing....it's just a really bad attempt at deflection. The classic red herring.

No, not a deflection.....YOU Mr Navarro, were the one who posted the deflection....I used YOUR post  to point out that the prime witness Howard Brennan said that the 175 pound m, who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing, was armed with a 30 caliber HUNTING RIFLE possibly a 30-30 Winchester and NOT an old military rifle.

12:45 "Attention Elm and Houston is reported to be an unknown white male, all squads. Attention all squads. The suspect in the shooting at approximately thirty, slender build, height five feet ten inches, weight one hundred sixty-five pounds, reported to be armed with what is thought to be a 30 caliber rifle..........He's thought to be in this Texas School Book Depository, here on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston."

By 12:47 "Signal 19, involving the President. Suspect: white male, thirty, slender build, five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty-five pounds, believed to have used 30 caliber rifle. Believed to be in the old School Book Depository, Elm and Houston, at this time."

The information in these DPD radio broadcasts came from Howard Brennan.... 

Howard Brennan wrote a sworn affidavit about an hour after the shooting. In that affidavit he wrote: ...quote..." I then saw this man I have described in the window and he was taking with a high powered rifle. I could see all of the barrel of the gun" ...Unquote

The barrel of a mannlicher carcano is cover by a full length wooden stock.

Brennan said he could see all of the barrel of the "HIGH POWERED RIFLE" ....Many people call big game hunting rifles "high powered rifles" 

When Brennan was asked if he knew what kind of rifle the 35 year old, 175 pound,  man  man was armed with .....He said it might have been a 30 -30 Winchester ( a high powered rifle) And that's what was broadcast over the police radio.

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Re: Did Lee Oswald know....??
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2019, 04:59:10 PM »
No, not a deflection.....YOU Mr Navarro, were the one who posted the deflection....I used YOUR post  to point out that the prime witness Howard Brennan said that the 175 pound m, who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing, was armed with a 30 caliber HUNTING RIFLE possibly a 30-30 Winchester and NOT an old military rifle.

12:45 "Attention Elm and Houston is reported to be an unknown white male, all squads. Attention all squads. The suspect in the shooting at approximately thirty, slender build, height five feet ten inches, weight one hundred sixty-five pounds, reported to be armed with what is thought to be a 30 caliber rifle..........He's thought to be in this Texas School Book Depository, here on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston."

By 12:47 "Signal 19, involving the President. Suspect: white male, thirty, slender build, five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty-five pounds, believed to have used 30 caliber rifle. Believed to be in the old School Book Depository, Elm and Houston, at this time."

The information in these DPD radio broadcasts came from Howard Brennan.... 

Howard Brennan wrote a sworn affidavit about an hour after the shooting. In that affidavit he wrote: ...quote..." I then saw this man I have described in the window and he was taking with a high powered rifle. I could see all of the barrel of the gun" ...Unquote

The barrel of a mannlicher carcano is cover by a full length wooden stock.

Brennan said he could see all of the barrel of the "HIGH POWERED RIFLE" ....Many people call big game hunting rifles "high powered rifles" 

When Brennan was asked if he knew what kind of rifle the 35 year old, 175 pound,  man  man was armed with .....He said it might have been a 30 -30 Winchester ( a high powered rifle) And that's what was broadcast over the police radio.

If Brennan had seen a old military rifle being aimed from a TSBD window, do you believe he would have referred to it as a "HIGH POWERED RIFLE"?

If YOU saw the carcano sticking out of a window.....How would you describe it?.....

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Lee Oswald know....??
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2019, 09:00:36 PM »
Could be Brennan failed to distinguish the wooden stock from the barrel.



As I understand it, Brennan wasn't seeing the rifle through tripod-mounted binoculars. And he felt in fear of his life. So you expect him to function as a digital recording device?

Good one

And it's hilarious how Oswald keeps gaining weight and aging in WallyWorld

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Re: Did Lee Oswald know....??
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2019, 12:36:52 AM »
Could be Brennan failed to distinguish the wooden stock from the barrel.



As I understand it, Brennan wasn't seeing the rifle through tripod-mounted binoculars. And he felt in fear of his life. So you expect him to function as a digital recording device?

Whatta cop out!....  I suspect that you realize how stupid it is to claim that anybody would refer to an old military rifle as a "high powered rifle"

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Re: Did Lee Oswald know....??
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2019, 11:21:56 AM »
Whatta cop out!....  I suspect that you realize how stupid it is to claim that anybody would refer to an old military rifle as a "high powered rifle"

JBC immediately identified the sound as that of a rifle because he was a hunter and he didn't see the rifle. Like I told you before Brennan could have identified the rifle as high powered by the sound.