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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2018, 04:42:48 PM »
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The sign was on a busy city road and with the increased attention of the assassination was probably busier than usual but you reckon someone came along and swapped the signs, hilarious!hnM
EMMET J. HUDSON - WC TESTIMONY  (7/22/63)

ATTORNEY LIEBELER - "Were you the groundskeeper of Dealey Plaza on or about 11/22/63?"

EMMIT J. HUDSON  - "Yes, I have been there about 6 years."

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LIEBELER - " There are 2 signs in Picture No. 18, one says "R.L. Thornton Freeway, keep right", and the other one says, "Fort Worth turnpike, keep right."

HUDSON - "There WERE 2 of them that wasn't too far apart right through here - them signs WAS right along in here, and the other one was either further up I guess.  It's not in that picture - I don't believe now. THEY HAVE MOVED SOME OF THE SIGNS. THEY HAVE MOVED THE R.L. THORNTON SIGN AND PUT UP A STEMMONS SIGN.

LIEBELER - "They have?" "They have moved it?"

HUDSON - "Yes, sir"

LIEBELER - "That might explain it because this picture here, No. 18 was taken AFTER the assassination, and this one was taken AT THE TIME - No. 1.

Nobody would be more aware of  the Absence/Shifting Position of Signage sitting on The Knoll, than the individual that had been paid to landscape that area for 6 years.         
         

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2018, 05:08:30 AM »
FACT CHECK

SA Lem Johns was "left behind in Dealey Plaza".

Johns caught a ride to Parkland with another vehicle that was in the motorcade and therefore, was not left behind in Dealey Plaza.

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2018, 05:44:14 PM »
Johns caught a ride to Parkland with another vehicle that was in the motorcade and therefore, was not left behind in Dealey Plaza.

                                       
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You well know SA Lem Johns was Initially seated inside the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car. You also Know that he jumped out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car and then that car sped away. This left SA Lem Johns "behind in Dealey Plaza". We frequently have Newbes coming to this Forum for Information regarding the JFK Assassination. Please do Not mislead them in your attempt to avoid admitting you made a mistake.

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2018, 04:05:02 PM »
         BILL

You well know SA Lem Johns was Initially seated inside the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car. You also Know that he jumped out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car and then that car sped away. This left SA Lem Johns "behind in Dealey Plaza". We frequently have Newbes coming to this Forum for Information regarding the JFK Assassination. Please do Not mislead them in your attempt to avoid admitting you made a mistake.

I didn't make a mistake here.  Johns caught a ride with one of the camera cars in the moving motorcade and therefore, was not left behind in Dealey Plaza.

Perhaps your definition of "left behind" is different than mine, but that does not mean that I am wrong.

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2018, 01:38:27 AM »
The Stemmons sign was made of wood !

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2020, 01:38:12 AM »
The Great Zapruder Film Hoax by Jim Fetzer   Of all the presenters who traveled to Duluth for the Symposium , the one who traveled farthest was Dr. John Costella, a theoretical physicist from Australia. Dr. Costella is something of a newcomer to the area of JFK research but he has made astounding contributions already. One of the more fascinating discoveries Costella has made involves the Stemmons Freeway sign in Dealey Plaza. As it turns out , the lens system on Zapruder's camera was patented by Bell & Howell; its characteristics are well documented. As many are aware , Zapruder's Bell & Howell Director's Series 414PD camera was set on telephoto while he filmed the presidential motorcade. This lens has a characteristic "pincushioning" effect which tends to pull the image frames outward .  This pincushioning effect is clearly present in the extant Zapruder film , as it should be . Except there is no pincushioning detected for the Stemmons Freeway sign along Elm Street---and there should be. Costella shows that it is physically impossible for pincushioning to occur in portions of movie frames selectively while other portions are free from the distortion . How could the Stemmons sign have escaped the pincushioning ? The short and undeniable answer is that the Stemmons Freeway sign , as it appears , was inserted into the film after it was processed . The sign should have had the same pincushion distortion as the rest of the frame as well as all the frames before and after the ones in which the sign appears. Recall that the extant film shows JFK smiling and waving to the crowd prior to disappearing behind the sign . When he re-emerges he has his hands up to his throat as he reacts to being shot . Irrefutably , the Stemmons sign obscures the throat shot---a frontal throat shot. Some researchers have theorized that the sign was also struck by a shot from the grassy knoll. ( The sign was not made of metal but was plywood.) Are these the reasons an artificial sign was inserted into the extant film? If so, Costella reasons , the extant film was not merely " altered " ---it was " fabricated ". Fabricated , as in " falsified "---with criminal intent , since obstructing justice was , and still is , a crime. assassinationresearch.com/v3n2/v3n2dellarosa.pdf   

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2020, 08:17:05 AM »
Were there holes in the Stemmons Freeway Sign ? Jim Marrs says that the Freeway sign was taken 
down because of the bullet holes in the sign . I had asked the 6th floor curator Gary Mack about the sign several years ago, if he had knowledge of the sign being taken down due to  bullet holes . His e-mail reply was that he knew of no holes in the sign. Anyone have any knowledge of bullet holes in the sign on 11-22-63 .

Fair enough there were no holes.But were their stress marks? For example if someone was shooting from the triple over-pass, in theory fragments from the head shot could have hit the sign.

Someone must have that sign somewhere in their garage. I doubt it would be just dumped?

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2020, 10:54:35 PM »
The Great Zapruder Film Hoax by Jim Fetzer   Of all the presenters who traveled to Duluth for the Symposium , the one who traveled farthest was Dr. John Costella, a theoretical physicist from Australia. Dr. Costella is something of a newcomer to the area of JFK research but he has made astounding contributions already. One of the more fascinating discoveries Costella has made involves the Stemmons Freeway sign in Dealey Plaza. As it turns out , the lens system on Zapruder's camera was patented by Bell & Howell; its characteristics are well documented. As many are aware , Zapruder's Bell & Howell Director's Series 414PD camera was set on telephoto while he filmed the presidential motorcade. This lens has a characteristic "pincushioning" effect which tends to pull the image frames outward .  This pincushioning effect is clearly present in the extant Zapruder film , as it should be . Except there is no pincushioning detected for the Stemmons Freeway sign along Elm Street---and there should be. Costella shows that it is physically impossible for pincushioning to occur in portions of movie frames selectively while other portions are free from the distortion . How could the Stemmons sign have escaped the pincushioning ? The short and undeniable answer is that the Stemmons Freeway sign , as it appears , was inserted into the film after it was processed . The sign should have had the same pincushion distortion as the rest of the frame as well as all the frames before and after the ones in which the sign appears. Recall that the extant film shows JFK smiling and waving to the crowd prior to disappearing behind the sign . When he re-emerges he has his hands up to his throat as he reacts to being shot . Irrefutably , the Stemmons sign obscures the throat shot---a frontal throat shot. Some researchers have theorized that the sign was also struck by a shot from the grassy knoll. ( The sign was not made of metal but was plywood.) Are these the reasons an artificial sign was inserted into the extant film? If so, Costella reasons , the extant film was not merely " altered " ---it was " fabricated ". Fabricated , as in " falsified "---with criminal intent , since obstructing justice was , and still is , a crime. assassinationresearch.com/v3n2/v3n2dellarosa.pdf

    "Except there is no pincushioning detected for the Stemmons Freeway sign along Elm Street---
     and there should be. Costella shows that it is physically impossible for pincushioning to occur
     in portions of movie frames selectively while other portions are free from the distortion.
     How could the Stemmons sign have escaped the pincushioning?"



Costella may understand the principal, but he doesn't know how to detect pincushioning.

Please note that the neutral position of the Stemmons sign in the Zapruder film was leaning to camera-right. Any "vertical-straightening" of the posts in the corner signals pincushion.


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