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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #208 on: January 29, 2019, 03:02:48 PM »
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  Oswald's visa picture. The very same picture appears as CE-2788.
The Report states that CE-2788 is a picture that was taken after "his [Oswald's] return from Russia". I cannot understand how he was sent by the Cuban embassy to have his visa picture taken in the first week of October '63 and then he comes back with this identical picture :-\
 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=213&tab=page

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #209 on: January 29, 2019, 04:45:23 PM »
  Oswald's visa picture. The very same picture appears as CE-2788.
The Report states that CE-2788 is a picture that was taken after "his [Oswald's] return from Russia". I cannot understand how he was sent by the Cuban embassy to have his visa picture taken in the first week of October '63 and then he comes back with this identical picture :-\
Duran said she asked him for several copies of photos for his application (I believe it was four). She had to make carbon copies of his application and then attach a photo to each one. One photo wouldn't do since she had to send one copy of the application to Havana and keep one or two for the consulate records.

So isn't reasonable to believe that he had copies of that photo? He simply went back to his hotel and got them? Since she wanted multiple photos maybe that was the only one he had with multiple copies/versions.

I deleted the photos to save space/bandwidth.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #210 on: January 29, 2019, 06:25:39 PM »
  Oswald's visa picture. The very same picture appears as CE-2788.
The Report states that CE-2788 is a picture that was taken after "his [Oswald's] return from Russia". I cannot understand how he was sent by the Cuban embassy to have his visa picture taken in the first week of October '63 and then he comes back with this identical picture :-\
 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=213&tab=page


Dear Jerry,

What's so hard to understand about the following scenario (bearing in mind that the Armeggedon-fearing and FBI-protecting Warren Commission mistakenly assumed that the photo of Oswald had been taken after he returned to the U.S.):

Short, blond, blue-eyed, very thin-faced "Third Secretary / Assistant Cultual Attache" KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov not only impersonated Oswald over the phone in Mexico City, but provided Sylvia Duran with the taken-in-Minsk photo of him, and told her and her colleagues what to do and say (with permission from Fidel Castro, of course).

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  It's interesting to note that in this scenario, The Man Who Was Not There (Oswald) "somehow failed to take passport-sized photos of himself to the Cuban Consulate (even though he was a seasoned international traveler and must have passed several photo shops on his way from Hotel del Comercio to the Consulate that morning) and had to leave the Consulate and come back a couple of hours later with some taken-in-Mexico City photos of himself" ...

Why in the world would the KGB/DGI create such an implausible narrative?

... Well, to emphasize the "fact" that The Man Who Was Not There (Oswald) had -- LOL -- "actually been in Mexico City."


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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #211 on: January 29, 2019, 07:30:07 PM »
  Oswald's visa picture. The very same picture appears as CE-2788.
The Report states that CE-2788 is a picture that was taken after "his [Oswald's] return from Russia". I cannot understand how he was sent by the Cuban embassy to have his visa picture taken in the first week of October '63 and then he comes back with this identical picture :-\
 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=213&tab=page


There can be no rebuttal to Lee Oswald denying that he had been in Mexico City during the very first interrogation on Nov 22, 1963.    Clearly FBI agent and Lee Oswald KNEW the ramifications of Lee's visit to Mexico City...   

Hosty caught hell from his boss,  Gordon Shanklin for asking Lee if he'd been to Mexico City  and Lee got very angry for being asked about Mexico City.....

Shanklin yanked Hosty from the interrogation sessions because He broached the subject.....It should be obvious that Lee DID go to Mexico City, and there were serious ramifications that were connected to that visit to MC.   

It's been reported that Lee Oswald loudly threatened to kill JFK while he was at the Cuban Embassy....  and Hosty knew that.....

So the immediate question that would have been raised if the public had known...Would have been ....  So The FBI KNEW that Lee Oswald had threatened to shoot the President Of the United States, and he wasn't arrested the instant he stepped foot in the US???      WHY wasn't  he arrested??? 

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #212 on: January 29, 2019, 07:53:03 PM »
There can be no rebuttal to Lee Oswald denying that he had been in Mexico City during the very first interrogation on Nov 22, 1963.    Clearly FBI agent and Lee Oswald KNEW the ramifications of Lee's visit to Mexico City...   

Hosty caught hell from his boss,  Gordon Shanklin for asking Lee if he'd been to Mexico City  and Lee got very angry for being asked about Mexico City.....

Shanklin yanked Hosty from the interrogation sessions because He broached the subject.....It should be obvious that Lee DID go to Mexico City, and there were serious ramifications that were connected to that visit to MC.   

It's been reported that Lee Oswald loudly threatened to kill JFK while he was at the Cuban Embassy....  and Hosty knew that.....

So the immediate question that would have been raised if the public had known...Would have been ....  So The FBI KNEW that Lee Oswald had threatened to shoot the President Of the United States, and he wasn't arrested the instant he stepped foot in the US???      WHY wasn't  he arrested???
So "they" let Hosty and Fritz tell the WC that Oswald denied going to Mexico City?

You think all of this was a frameup of Oswald and yet you believe Hosty and Fritz - two main players in the framing of him - werent' ordered to say that Oswald admitted going to Mexico City? They said he denied it? Even though the whole WC was, for you, a fake?

And it wasn't his visit to MC that was potentially serious: it was his meeting with Valery Kostikov at the Soviet Embassy. Kostikov was believed to be in charge of assassination activities for the KGB in the Western Hemisphere. Of course, it makes no sense that Oswald would go directly to the Embassy to meet his handler. He'd go somewhere where the CIA wasn't monitoring things.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #213 on: January 29, 2019, 08:04:42 PM »
There can be no rebuttal to Lee Oswald denying that he had been in Mexico City during the very first interrogation on Nov 22, 1963.    Clearly FBI agent and Lee Oswald KNEW the ramifications of Lee's visit to Mexico City...   

Hosty caught hell from his boss,  Gordon Shanklin for asking Lee if he'd been to Mexico City  and Lee got very angry for being asked about Mexico City.....

Shanklin yanked Hosty from the interrogation sessions because He broached the subject.....It should be obvious that Lee DID go to Mexico City, and there were serious ramifications that were connected to that visit to MC.   

It's been reported that Lee Oswald loudly threatened to kill JFK while he was at the Cuban Embassy....  and Hosty knew that.....

So the immediate question that would have been raised if the public had known...Would have been ....  So The FBI KNEW that Lee Oswald had threatened to shoot the President Of the United States, and he wasn't arrested the instant he stepped foot in the US???      WHY wasn't  he arrested???

Why, indeed, Walter.

Either the evil, evil, evil FBI conspired with the evil, evil, evil CIA to kill JFK in such a way as to ensure the nuking of Russia and/or the invasion of Cuba (LOL), or ... gasp ... Oswald didn't go to Mexico City at all, and was impersonated over the phone down there, by KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov (who also provided the taken-in-Minsk photo of Oswald to Sylvia Duran), in a scripted conversation with KGB triple-agent Ivan Obyedkov, in which Obyedkov "volunteered" the radioactive name "Kostikov" to Leonov/"Oswald" so that a Khruschev and Castro-protecting WW III Virus could be planted in Oswald's CIA file.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)
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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #214 on: January 29, 2019, 08:28:25 PM »
So "they" let Hosty and Fritz tell the WC that Oswald denied going to Mexico City?

You think all of this was a frameup of Oswald and yet you believe Hosty and Fritz - two main players in the framing of him - werent' ordered to say that Oswald admitted going to Mexico City? They said he denied it? Even though the whole WC was, for you, a fake?

And it wasn't his visit to MC that was potentially serious: it was his meeting with Valery Kostikov at the Soviet Embassy. Kostikov was believed to be in charge of assassination activities for the KGB in the Western Hemisphere. Of course, it makes no sense that Oswald would go directly to the Embassy to meet his handler. He'd go somewhere where the CIA wasn't monitoring things.

Why did Lee become very angry after Hosty asked him if he'd been to Mexico City ?   ( Actually Hosty had Fritz ask the question)

Why Did Gordon Shanklin reprimand Hosty for bringing up Lee Oswald's visit to Mexico City?

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #215 on: January 29, 2019, 08:39:35 PM »
Why did Lee become very angry after Hosty asked him if he'd been to Mexico City ?   ( Actually Hosty had Fritz ask the question)

Why Did Gordon Shanklin reprimand Hosty for bringing up Lee Oswald's visit to Mexico City?

Dear Walter,

Maybe because he didn't want to let the putitive "cat out of the bag" that Oswald had apparently not only met with Castro's people in Mexico City, but had met with highly radioactive (thanks to a KGB triple-agent, hoodwinked J. Edgar Hoover's "Fedora") KGB officer Valeri Kostikov?

Just a wild guess.

LOL

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)
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