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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #88 on: January 20, 2019, 06:21:41 PM »
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I'm always willing to hear an argument....  And there's nothing better that solidly proven FACTS....
OK did we go through all this. From David Josephs  .....
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Mr. STERN. And at what time did you know of Oswald's trip to Mexico City and his apparent appearance there at the Russian Embassy?
Mr. HOSTY. The 25th of October.

Mr. STERN. Had you received any information about any other contacts with Russian officials by Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. HOSTY. Not at that time.
Mr. STERN. What other information did you have at anytime about that?
Mr. HOSTY. On November 22, after the assassination of President Kennedy, I was advised that our Washington field office of the FBI had determined that he, Lee Oswald, had been in contact with the Soviet Embassy in Washington, D.C. I learned that after the assassination.
Mr. STERN. After the assassination?
Mr. HOSTY. Right, sir.

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Uhhh, not so much Mr. Hosty...  you knew a week earlier and lied about it... 

We know that Allen Dulles was there [mainly] to make sure that the Agency's soiled panties wouldn't be showing. Anything further is speculation. However there was a CIA operative/Alpha 66/Mob/military connection somewhere along the line I feel sure.


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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #89 on: January 21, 2019, 01:23:10 AM »
OK did we go through all this. From David Josephs  .....
We know that Allen Dulles was there [mainly] to make sure that the Agency's soiled panties wouldn't be showing. Anything further is speculation. However there was a CIA operative/Alpha 66/Mob/military connection somewhere along the line I feel sure.

Mr. HOSTY. On November 22, after the assassination of President Kennedy, I was advised that our Washington field office of the FBI had determined that he, Lee Oswald, had been in contact with the Soviet Embassy in Washington, D.C. I learned that after the assassination.
Mr. STERN. After the assassination?
Mr. HOSTY. Right, sir.

This is a bare faced lie by Hosty....  It's common knowledge that Ruth Paine called Hosty on 10/8/63  and told him that she had a copy of a letter that Lee Oswald had written to the Russian Embassy...   

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2019, 09:10:55 PM »
Here is one of the copies of the transit visa that Oswald applied for when he visited the Cuban consulate in Mexico City. This was supplied by the Cuban government. The signature was identified as belonging to Oswald.

The Cuban official - Sylvia Turan Duran - who typed out the forms has said for more than 55 years that the man she met was Lee Harvey Oswald.



Silvia Tirado de Duran (in 1963) is Mexican, for what it's worth.
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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #91 on: January 21, 2019, 09:24:57 PM »
Yeah, Steve, and 5' 3.5" Sylvia Tirado de Duran described her "Oswald" as being short, blond-haired, blue-or-green-eyed, and weighing about the same as Eddie Lopez (199 119 lbs.).

Lee Harvey Oswald was 5' 9.5", brown-haired, grey-or-hazel-eyed, and weighed around 135 lbs.

"Third Secretary" KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov, however, was 5' 7", blond-haired, had blue eyes, and was, well, downright skinny.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

Oh yeah, and Duran said her "Oswald" was cheaply dressed.

Isn't it interesting that the sweater vest Oswald was wearing in his Cuban Visa Application photo, above, was the same one he was wearing in three or four photos of him that were taken apparently fairly early on in his USSR sojourn?  Point being: that passport-sized photo of him could have been taken in Minsk, and in fact it is very similar in format of other photos in his "Minsk Scrap Book," or whatever it was called.

Oswald had that sweater on 11/22/1963 so why should there be any doubt about the date of the photo in the visa application? https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=544&tab=page
 
And, YES, Oswald did go to Mexico City in late Sept/early Oct 1963. The evidence for that is overwhelming.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2019, 12:12:16 AM »
Oswald had that sweater on 11/22/1963 so why should there be any doubt about the date of the photo in the visa application? https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=544&tab=page
 
And, YES, Oswald did go to Mexico City in late Sept/early Oct 1963. The evidence for that is overwhelming.

Dear Oscar,

The fact that Oswald was photographed several times in the USSR wearing that sweater vest means that that passport-sized Cuban visa application photo of him could have been taken there and provided to Sylvia Duran by short, blond, blue-eyed, very thin-faced, suit-wearing KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov practically anytime before the assassination.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #93 on: January 22, 2019, 12:48:32 AM »
Dear Oscar,

The fact that Oswald was photographed several times in the USSR wearing that sweater vest means that that passport-sized Cuban visa application photo of him could have been taken there and provided to Sylvia Duran by short, blond, blue-eyed, very thin-faced, suit-wearing KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov practically anytime before the assassination.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

The problem with your theory is that it flies in the face of overwhelming evidence that Oswald was in Mexico City, Mudd Wrassler Tommy. Until solid evidence that corroborates your theory and disposes of the solid evidence that has Oswald in MC appears I'm afraid you have no choice but to accept the unpalatable (for you) plain facts.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #94 on: January 22, 2019, 01:31:32 AM »
The problem with your theory is that it flies in the face of overwhelming evidence that Oswald was in Mexico City, Mudd Wrassler Tommy. Until solid evidence that corroborates your theory and disposes of the solid evidence that has Oswald in MC appears I'm afraid you have no choice but to accept the unpalatable (for you) plain facts.

Dear Oscar,

Does your "overwhelming evidence" include "Oswald was in Mexico City" statements by KGB-boys Nechiporenko, Yastkov, Kostikov and short, blond, 35 year-old, suit-wearing, blue-eyed, skinny, very thin-faced KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov (who claimed in 1992 that he'd met with "emotional, revolver-packing" Oswald at the Soviet Embassy on ... gasp ... SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 29?

LOL

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  Oh yeah, and pro-Castro Sylvia Duran and Cuban Consuls Azcue and Miribal (the first two of whom must have felt very guilty indeed for having helped frame Oswald for the assassintion, otherwise how do we explain their describing him afterwards in such a way as to so obviously point a guilty finger at the above-mentioned short, blond, 35 year-old, suit-wearing, skinny, blue-eyed, very thin-faced KGB colonel, Nikolai Leonov?
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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #95 on: January 22, 2019, 01:39:39 AM »
Silvia Tirado de Duran (in 1963) is Mexican, for what it's worth.
Thanks. And she wasn't really an "official"; according to the account by her and other Cuban consulate officials, she was a secretary/officer worker who took over the job a couple of months earlier (in August) after the previous secretary had been killed in a car crash. She said she met Azcue, the Cuban consul, at the funeral and offered to help the consulate out. So he hired her pending the arrival of a replacement from Havana. She said she left the job two days after the assassination.

And one more tidbit: Durado's name and phone number were written in Oswald's notebook/diary AND, most important, a note/piece of paper from her with her name and number was found among his possessions. She admitted to giving it to him when he visited the second time that Friday.

So, if he didn't go to MC how did he get that? Yes, we know: it was planted. "They" planted everything but couldn't fake a photo of him entering the embassy?

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