Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

[Thomas Graves]

Dear Jerry,

Any idea as to why triple-agents Aleksey Kulak (Hoover's "Fedora") and Mexico City Soviet Embassy security guard Ivan Obyedkov (misspelled "Byetkov" in Angleton's June 19, 1975, top-secret Church Committee testimony) planted a Kremlin-protecting and ultimately (e.g., John Newman's revised Oswald and the CIA) Angleton-damaging "WW III virus" in Oswald's CIA file seven weeks before the assassination?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

Bumped

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

PS  Answer quickly before Scully covers it with another "Beautiful Mind" collage.

[Jerry Freeman]

Jerry,
Any idea as to why triple-agents Aleksey Kulak (Hoover's "Fedora") and Ivan Obyedkov (misspelled "Byetkov" in Angleton's June 19, 1975, top-secret Church Committee testimony) planted a Kremlin-protecting and ultimately (e.g., John Newman's revised Oswald and the CIA) Angleton-damaging "WW III virus" in Oswald's  CIA file seven weeks before the assassination?

I don't have a clue.
 

[Thomas Graves]

I don't have a clue.

Why not, Jerry?
Ever heard of KGB officer Valiery Kostikov (at the Mexico City Soviet Consulate) whom the illustrious Larry Hancock at the EF is on record as doubting was really "Department 13"?

How about Igor Brykin? Guenter Schulz?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

[Jerry Freeman]

Ever heard of KGB officer Valiery Kostikov...?

One emefer at a time

But the links between Kostikov, who was serving as vice consul at the embassy as Oswald tried in vain to get a Soviet visa there in September 1963, and the KGB's "assassination" department appear to be far from definitively established, according to previously classified documents now available to the public.

https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ussr-kennedy-assassination-oswald-kgb-contact-mexico-assassinations-officer/28819941.html
See the photo? Everybody looks like ghouls. [& the DPS certainly were]

Kostikov himself was quoted about his interactions with Oswald in a book by a fellow KGB officer, Oleg Nechiporenko, about the Kennedy assassination.

https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-1-55972-210-0  .....

On the whole Nechiporenko believes that Oswald was Kennedy's sole assassin, though, somewhat paradoxically, he feels there was a plot,

What a load of gavno [a Russian word] There was a plot for Oswald to be a lone assassin. [I've been saying that for years] If Oswald wanted to off Kennedy, why did he want to go to the Soviet Union [where Kennedy wasn't]? Don't anyone waste their money on any of that Commie durmo [another Russian word]
 

[Thomas Graves]

One emefer at a time :-\https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ussr-kennedy-assassination-oswald-kgb-contact-mexico-assassinations-officer/28819941.html
See the photo? Everybody looks like ghouls. [& the DPS certainly were]https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-1-55972-210-0  .....What a load of gavno [a Russian word] There was a plot for Oswald to be a lone assassin. [I've been saying that for years] If Oswald wanted to off Kennedy, why did he want to go to the Soviet Union [where Kennedy wasn't]? Don't anyone waste their money on any of that Commie durmo [another Russian word]
 

Dear Jerry,

Not sure if you're comprehending what I've been saying. Larry Hancock and I agree with you that Valeriy Kostikov at the Mexico City Soviet Consulate probably wasn't "Department 13" (if that's what you're saying).

What's more important is that two KGB triple-agents (one of whom the FBI thought was working for it, and the other whom the CIA thought was working for it), with witting or unwitting help from a KGB agent at the U.N. (Oleg Brykin) and FBI double-agent (Guenter Schulz, aka FBI "Tumbleweed" and CIA "AEBURBLE"), managed not only to tentatively convince U.S. intelligence that diplomat/KGB officer Kostikov was "Department 13," but to plant a WW III virus in Oswald's CIA file (by "volunteering" Kostikov's now-radioactive name in a tapped-by-CIA phone conversation with "Oswald"), thereby insuring that, after the assassination, Armegeddon-fearing CIA and egg-on-face-fearing FBI would cover up all evidence that might implicate the Kremlin and / or Havana in the foul deed.

Now, how do you like that hovno?  (Czech)

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

[Mike Orr]

No ! As J. Edgar Hoover thought , there was no real evidence or pictures of LHO in Mexico at said time !

[Thomas Graves]

No ! As J. Edgar Hoover thought , there was no real evidence or pictures of LHO in Mexico at said time !

Mike,

If Oswald didn't go to Mexico City (and I agree with you that he didn't), then obviously he must have been impersonated over the phone down there, if not in person.

Since 5' 3.5" Sylvia Duran described the Oswald she'd dealt with as "skinny," having an "elongated" face, being about the same height as her, blond-haired, and blue (or green) eyed, and since her colleague Eusebio Azcue described him as being about 35 years old, thin, wearing a Prince of Wales suit, and having a very thin face, one can only assume they were both describing the 35 year-old, 5' 7", thin, blond-haired, blue-eyed, very thin-faced, suit-wearing "Third Secretary" and "Assistant Cultural Attache" at the Soviet Embassy, KGB colonel Nikolai Leonov, the guy who had turned Raul Castro and Che Guevara onto Communism in 1955, who is in many photographs with Fidel and/or Raul Castro, and whose "calling card" was found in Fidel's possession when Fidel and Guevara were arrested in Mexico City in 1956.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=48495&relPageId=3

But it's hard to believe that Leonov tried to physically impersonate Oswald to "old hand" Cuban Consul Eusebio Azcue, for the simple reason that Azcue would have known him from diplomatic receptions they had attended, from consular business they had conducted with each other, and maybe even from playing against each other at Leonov's beloved Soviet Embassy volleyball games.

So, in my mind, Leonov didn't actually impersonate Oswald physically, but he did provide Sylvia Duran with one or two passport-sized photos of Oswald that were taken in the USSR, and told (or had Castro's intelligence service tell) Duran and Azcue what to do, and what to say to the authorities, afterwards.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

PS  Google "nikolai leonov" to see some photos of him.

[Richard Smith]

I'm not sure that I follow any of this.

Go back to sleep Mr "Smith"....  This is way over your head....

You suggested that Oswald needed an alibi in case he was rounded up in a raid.  And that explains why his signature appears on that date.  That is idiotic for the reasons you apparently can't follow.  If person A is arrested at a certain place and time, then the authorities know he was at that place and time because that is when and where they took him into custody.  A person can't be two places at once.  So Oswald's signature does him no good in the silly scenario that you have proposed.  Nor does it make sense if the authorities have the capability to get him released.  You don't need an alibi if someone in charge of your incarceration is willing and able to release you.  They just arrange for his release.  Most likely his is a hoax after the fact.