Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

[Walt Cakebread]

While browsing I found this statement translated from Marina's notes....
                                                        http://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/pdf/WH18_CE_994.pdf page 619
Hosty? and who else?

Do you have a date for this incident?....  If the FBI man was Hosty, then his partner would probably have been Wilson ....BUT....I doubt that the man was Hosty....

I suspect that the men were Hoover's "Extra Special" agents.....   Who were setting Lee up as the patsy.

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt...Oswald hated Hosty. He was most angry at the questioner rather than the question.

I don't know if Lee hated Hosty....   I do believe that Hosty had tried to woo Marina and Marina had told Lee about Hosty's advances.   ( If you had met Marina I'm sure you'd understand....  She was a very sexy gal. ( beautiful green eyes)

So lee could have been angry about that, but he was more upset because Hosty had not responded to the note that he had left at the FBI offices.   Lee had learned that there was a plot to assassinate JFK on his visit to Dallas and he wanted the FBI to be aware of the plot.  Lee was planning on the hoax attempt on JFK, and he wanted the FBI to know that there was a serious plot afoot.

When Hosty showed up at the interrogation, and Lee learned who he was, he became very angry....  Because he had tried to warn Hosty about the plot but the dopey Hosty didn't respond to the note.   Lee had written that note hoping that Hosty would come looking for him and then he could tell Hosty what he had learned.

[Jerry Freeman]

Do you have a date for this incident?....  If the FBI man was Hosty, then his partner would probably have been Wilson ....BUT....I doubt that the man was Hosty....

I suspect that the men were Hoover's "Extra Special" agents.....   Who were setting Lee up as the patsy.

See the link. They were staying at Robert Oswalds in Ft Worth. It seems to me there could have been patsies all over the country depending upon where they might have been needed. It takes a real sheep to believe there was no plot.

[Zeon Mason]

Seems like there was consensus reached by the MIC in BOTH super power nations that nuke war was NOT a viable option. And that the future profiteering off warfare would be from proxy conventional warfare by 3rd world elements whom could be sold small arms and munitions by either or both super power MIC

The USSR comrade commissar was amenable to the new idea this was not assassinated
The USA Nationalist Populist President on the other hand confronted the MIC aspirations for expanded 3rd world warfare in Vietnam vowed to “scatter the CIA to the winds”. He was assassinated about one month later. replaced with an MIC supporting LBJ

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Seems like there was consensus reached by the MIC in BOTH super power nations that nuke war was NOT a viable option. And that the future profiteering off warfare would be from proxy conventional warfare by 3rd world elements whom could be sold small arms and munitions by either or both super power MIC

The USSR comrade commissar was amenable to the new idea this was not assassinated
The USA Nationalist Populist President on the other hand confronted the MIC aspirations for expanded 3rd world warfare in Vietnam vowed to “scatter the CIA to the winds”. He was assassinated about one month later. replaced with an MIC supporting LBJ

Where did JFK say he would "scatter the CIA to the winds"? Answer: nowhere. It's a made up quote that has never been attributed to anyone on record and certainly not to JFK.

The source for this claim is apparently here: https://www.nytimes.com/1966/04/25/archives/cia-maker-of-policy-or-tool-survey-finds-widely-feared-agency-is.html

If you read the piece - and this is only source for it that I know of - no one is mentioned. It's an anonymous source who says JFK said it. That's almost worthless.

What does the CIA have to do with Vietnam?

The cause of the Third World warfare was the Soviets arming and funding guerilla armies to install Marxist or Moscow-supporting regimes. JFK knew this. That is why he tried to counter it with his own policies. Look up "Green Berets" for example.

JFK believed that the Soviets were an existential threat to the West. He was going to defend it from that threat. As he was going to say the day he was killed:

"We in this country, in this generation, are - by destiny rather than choice-the watchmen on the walls of world freedom. We ask, therefore, that we may be worthy of our power and responsibility, that we may exercise our strength with wisdom and restraint, and that we may achieve in our time and for all time the ancient vision of "peace on earth, good will toward men." That must always be our goal, and the righteousness of our cause must always underlie our strength. For as was written long ago: "except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain."

That's a steadfast defender of the US and someone not willing to surrender to the Soviets.

And one more: Lee Harvey Oswald did indeed go to Mexico City. He wanted to defect to Cuba. Had he done so JFK would not have been assassinated in Dallas.

[John Iacoletti]

And one more: Lee Harvey Oswald did indeed go to Mexico City. He wanted to defect to Cuba. Had he done so JFK would not have been assassinated in Dallas.

How could you possibly know that?

[Thomas Graves]

Where did JFK say he would "scatter the CIA to the winds"? Answer: nowhere. It's a made up quote that has never been attributed to anyone on record and certainly not to JFK.

The source for this claim is apparently here: https://www.nytimes.com/1966/04/25/archives/cia-maker-of-policy-or-tool-survey-finds-widely-feared-agency-is.html

If you read the piece - and this is only source for it that I know of - no one is mentioned. It's an anonymous source who says JFK said it. That's almost worthless.

What does the CIA have to do with Vietnam?

The cause of the Third World warfare was the Soviets arming and funding guerilla armies to install Marxist or Moscow-supporting regimes. JFK knew this. That is why he tried to counter it with his own policies. Look up "Green Berets" for example.

JFK believed that the Soviets were an existential threat to the West. He was going to defend it from that threat. As he was going to say the day he was killed:

"We in this country, in this generation, are - by destiny rather than choice-the watchmen on the walls of world freedom. We ask, therefore, that we may be worthy of our power and responsibility, that we may exercise our strength with wisdom and restraint, and that we may achieve in our time and for all time the ancient vision of "peace on earth, good will toward men." That must always be our goal, and the righteousness of our cause must always underlie our strength. For as was written long ago: "except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain."

That's a steadfast defender of the US and someone not willing to surrender to the Soviets.

And one more: Lee Harvey Oswald did indeed go to Mexico City. He wanted to defect to Cuba. Had he done so JFK would not have been assassinated in Dallas.

Steve M.,

You're absolutely right about the Soviet (Sino-Soviet, actually) threat to The West during the Cold War (which, btw, never ended as far as the Kremlin was concerned), and JFK's realistic appraisal of same.

In 1963, Kennedy sent a personal message (outside regular channels) to U.S.-despising Charles de Gaulle to the effect that the French government and its intelligence services had, based on intel from true-defector Anatoliy Golitsyn, been severely penetrated by the KGB.

But to no avail. De Gaulle (and even the few non-"mole" members of his inner circle -- lol) didn't heed JFK's advice as it created boucoup cognitive dissonance and potential embarrassment for the French leader and his lackeys, and only careless traitor Georges Paques was caught, and red-handed (pardon the pun), at that.

Point being: Kennedy was a charismatic anti-communist, and, as we now know regarding the Castro regime in Cuber, was not above playing a complicated, two-track strategy against the Commies.

--  MWT 

[Jerry Freeman]

Where did JFK say he would "scatter the CIA to the winds"? Answer: nowhere. It's a made up quote that has never been attributed to anyone on record and certainly not to JFK.

Dumbass statement #1

What does the CIA have to do with Vietnam?

Dumbass statement #2

And one more: Lee Harvey Oswald did indeed go to Mexico City. He wanted to defect to Cuba. Had he done so JFK would not have been assassinated in Dallas.

And one more: [dumbass statement] Who told you he wanted to defect--- your lower backside? Maybe not Dallas but Kennedy's number was up.