Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Supposedly he went there to get visa that would allow travel to the Soviet Union by way of Cuba.


LHO wasn't intending to go back to the Soviet Union. His intentions were to send Marina back there and for himself to stay in Cuba. (Ruth Paine's offer to take care of Marina & their kids temporarily solved that issue for him.) He prepared a resume to give to the Cubans to show his "credentials." Here are the notes he prepared while in New Orleans:

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During interrogation on November 22, 1963, Oswald denied having visited Mexico City and I can find no plausible reason why he would lie about it, as it had nothing to do with the crimes of which he was accused.


Perhaps he realized that admitting visiting Mexico City would implicate his visit to the Cuban Consulate and he didn't want to tie the Cubans to the assassination. LHO reportedly not only denied it, but also got visibly upset (like he did when Hosty entered the interrogation) when his visit to Mexico City was brought up.

Yes, that's what I understand too. When he arrived in Mexico City he went directly to the Cuban consulate in search of a transit visa not a regular visa: transit. He told Duran that his wife and family were going to the Soviet Union and he was going to join them. But he wanted to visit Cuba before returning and wanted a transit visa. Marina testified that he told her that he was going to go to Cuba and that she should go to the USSR. He then would (somehow) get them to come to Cuban once he was settled there.

When he was told by Duran that he needed to show a Soviet visa first before being given the Cuban transit visa he then went to the Soviet Embassy in search of one. According to the Soviets, he never actually filled out an application for one but asked them to expedite his previous request. And Soviet records indicate that they had made the decision earlier to turn down both Oswald's and Marina's requests for visas.

As to his denial: It's strange that supposedly he was framed for going to Mexico City by the FBI but then the FBI - Hosty - said he denied going there. That makes no sense. If they're framing him then why not say he admitted going there? He is dead; he cannot deny.

And if you believe Harry Holmes, the Dallas postal inspector who questioned Oswald on Sunday, Oswald admitted to him that he did visit Mexico City. I think Holmes' testimony here is very, very dubious.

Mr. BELIN. Did he admit that he went to Mexico?
Mr. HOLMES. Oh, yes.
Mr. BELIN. Did he say what community in Mexico he went to?
Mr. HOLMES. Mexico City.
Mr. BELIN. Did he say what he did while he was there?
Mr. HOLMES. He went to the Mexican consulate, I guess.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. BELIN. Now, with regard to this Mexican trip, did he say who he saw in Mexico?
Mr. HOLMES. Only that he went to the Mexican consulate or Embassy or something and wanted to get permission, or whatever it took to get to Cuba. They refused him and he became angry and he said he burst out of there, and I don't know. I don't recall now why he went into the business about how mad it made him.
He goes over to the Russian Embassy. He was already at the American. This was the Mexican--he wanted to go to Cuba.
Then he went to the Russian Embassy and he said, because he said then he wanted to go to Russia by way of Cuba, still trying to get to Cuba and try that angle and they refused and said, "Come back in 30 days," or something like that. And, he went out of there angry and disgusted.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

When did Silvia Duran deny the person was Oswald? Not once to my knowledge. Certainly not in her testimony. She testified that when she saw Oswald's picture in the newspaper the next day after the assassination, she told her husband this:

CORNWELL - Okay. Did you have any other discussion that you can recall with him [i.e., her husband] about it? based on that news report? About your contact?
TIRADO/DURAN - With my husband?
CORNWELL - Yes.
TIRADO/DURAN - I only told him, I think this man came to the Embassy.
CORNWELL - Then, the next morning you saw a newspaper.
TIRADO/DURAN - Yes.
CORNWELL - Were you sure at that time that that was the man?
TIRADO/DURAN - Yes.

Later:
TIRADO/DURAN - I show the paper to Horatio [her husband] and told him this is the man that went to the Embassy and I went to the Consulate and I look in the Archivos and I saw the application, I saw that it was the man and I went to the Embassy and I talked to the Ambassador and I told him that this...

Yes, her description of Oswald is off - she believed he was older, for example. But she has never, to my knowledge, denied that the person was Oswald. If someone has evidence she has, please provide it.

And Alfredo Mirabal, who was also in the consulate at the time, testified that the man was Oswald.

Duran's full testimony is here: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/hscadurn.htm

[Bill Chapman]

Anyway, he cashed a $30 unemployment check and left for Mexico City, where he applied for a visa at the Cuban Consulate. But how did he plan to get there with just the $30?

He could take a freakin' bus for a few bucks
In 2020 dollars, $30/1963 is $257

[Steve M. Galbraith]

He could take a freakin'n bus for a few bucks
In 2020 dollars, $30 is $257

Marina testified that he told he he had saved some money from his previous checks (it seems that CIA paycheck he was earning never showed up).

The hotel he stayed at - Hotel del Comercio - reportedly cost $1.28 a day. Sounds like just a great place to stay. Employees at the hotel - Corrected/not true. But a waiter at the nearby restaurant where he ate meals (they cost 40 to 48 cents) said the man was Oswald. And I guess the exchange rate for American dollars was very good.

[Jerry Freeman]

Yes, that's what I understand it too. When he arrived in Mexico City he went directly to the Cuban consulate in search of a transit visa.
He goes over to the Russian Embassy. He was already at the American. This was the Mexican--he wanted to go to Cuba.
Then he went to the Russian Embassy and he said, because he said then he wanted to go to Russia by way of Cuba, still trying to get to Cuba and try that angle and they refused and said, "Come back in 30 days," or something like that. And, he went out of there angry and disgusted.
And if you believe Harry Holmes, the Dallas postal inspector who questioned Oswald on Sunday, Oswald admitted to him that he did visit Mexico City. I think Holmes' testimony here is very, very dubious.

By his own admission...Harry Holmes was perched up over in the Terminal Annex Bldg watching the assassination with his binoculars. Weird huh?

Tuesday, 17 December 2019 05:17
Oswald's Last Letter: The Scorching Hot Potato
Written by Paul Bleau
Paul Bleau reveals the scorching hot potato that is Oswald's last letter to the Soviet Embassy and how the Warren Commission and HSCA attempted to sweep it under the rug.
In JFK: the Cuba Files, a thorough analysis of five bizarre letters, that were written before the assassination in order to position Oswald as a Castro asset, is presented. It is difficult to sidestep them the way the FBI did. The FBI argued that they were all typed from the same typewriter, yet supposedly sent by different people. Which indicated to them that it was a hoax, perhaps perpetrated by Cubans wanting to encourage a U.S. invasion.
 It incriminates Oswald in the following passage: “I am informing you that the matter you talked to me about the last time that I was in Mexico would be a perfect plan and would weaken the politics of that braggart Kennedy, although much discretion is needed because you know that there are counter-revolutionaries over there who are working for the CIA.”
Cuba is linked to the assassination in all of the letters. In two of them, an alleged Cuban agent is clearly implicated in having planned the crime. However, the content of the letters, written before the assassination, suggested that the authors were either “a person linked to Oswald or involved in the conspiracy to execute the crime.”

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/oswald-s-last-letter-the-scorching-hot-potato

[Charles Collins]

Marina testified that he told he he had saved some money from his previous checks (it seems that CIA paycheck he was earning never showed up).

The hotel he stayed at - Hotel del Comercio - reportedly cost $1.28 a day. Sounds like just a great place to stay. Employees at the hotel and the nearby restaurant where he ate meals (they cost 40 to 48 cents) also said the man was Oswald. And I guess the exchange rate for American dollars was very good.

The bus ticket from Nuevo Laredo at the Texas-Mexico border to Mexico City cost LHO 71.40 pesos ($5.71). The WC concluded that LHO began the month of September with $183.21 cash in hand. He skipped paying his rent and utilities bills that month.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

The bus ticket from Nuevo Laredo at the Texas-Mexico border to Mexico City cost LHO 71.40 pesos ($5.71). The WC concluded that LHO began the month of September with $183.21 cash in hand. He skipped paying his rent and utilities bills that month.

And Ruth Paine testified that he never gave her any money for her help. No gas money, food nothing.

The claim that Oswald was some sort of FBI informant or CIA asset is simply not believable for me. Did they not pay him? Did the CIA not get him a job? If so, where did the money go? He never had a house, a car, a phone - anything. He ate very little, they had to rely on charity. He lived in terrible poverty once he came back to the US.

Sorry, this is not someone working for the CIA. It's simply not believable unless one thinks that this impoverished life was part of his cover. Which, of course, is the claim.