Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #182 on: January 27, 2019, 07:02:19 PM »
Oswald in one of his final interrogations admitted to having visited Mexico but I don't think it is clear whether he was referring to visiting in 1963 or if he was referring to an earlier time. Like maybe when he was in the Marines.

I'm inclined to believe he did visit Mexico City in 1963.

Jon ....I believe that it was the very first interrogation of Lee Oswald, that he denied ever being in Mexico City....He said that he'd been to Tijuana when he was a Marine, but that was the only time that he'd visited Mexico....

I'm sure that he was lying .....And the reason he was lying is because he'd gone waaaaaay out of bounds at the Cuban Embassy and pretended to be very angry with JFK and loudly proclaimed that JFK should be shot, and he just might do that.....

Lee knew that he'd been recorded making that threat and even though it was a hollow threat meant for the ears of Castro's agents, it was very incriminating....
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #183 on: January 27, 2019, 08:33:33 PM »
Jon ....I believe that it was the very first interrogation of Lee Oswald, that he denied ever being in Mexico City....He said that he'd been to Tijuana when he was a Marine, but that was the only time that he'd visited Mexico....

I'm sure that he was lying .....And the reason he was lying is because he'd gone waaaaaay out of bounds at the Cuban Embassy and pretended to be very angry with JFK and loudly proclaimed that JFK should be shot, and he just might do that.....

Lee knew that he'd been recorded making that threat and even though it was a hollow threat meant for the ears of Castro's agents, it was very incriminating....

Dear Walter,

I believe ...

... THAT YOU ARE FULL OF BEANS.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)


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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #184 on: January 27, 2019, 08:51:24 PM »
Dear Walter,

I believe ...

... THAT YOU ARE FULL OF BEANS.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

Nope!...Just ate some fried chicken.....

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #185 on: January 27, 2019, 10:39:08 PM »
There may not have been any travel restrictions for Mexican citizens. They would still had to have a valid passport. American citizens cannot get a Mexican passport. Also, why would he have then applied  for a new USA one? And, what happened to that new one? Oscar...have you ever applied for a visa to anywhere?

There were no travel restrictions, period. American citizens didn't even need a US passport to get into Mexico. All they need was a birth certificate, a certificate of naturalization or just a signed pledge saying who they were if they claimed to be American. You would know this if you had read the link to CE-2119. If you would recall, in Oswald's case he was eventually given a Cuban visa thus waiving the requirement for a Russian visa because Oswald had claimed that he wanted to go to Russia via Cuba. And as stated previously the Communist party USA would make arrangements in advance with the Cuban consulate in MC to allow American fellow travelers to bypass the US travel restrictions to Cuba and thus avoid penalties imposed by the US government upon their return to the US because their US passports did not have stamped entry into Cuba.  As to his acquiring a US passport that was done in June 28, 1963. Apparently Oswald's plans were to become some kind of hero for the Cuban Revolution by opening a chapter in NO. I don't see any evidence that as of that date he was planning to join the Cuban Revolution by either hijacking a plane or to go by way of Mexico so Oswald might have wanted a US passport to permit him to travel to the USSR of which he had expressed a desire (see CE-13). As to Oswald's new passport I don't see the significance of it's whereabouts. As far as my having ever applied for a visa I imagine my father and mother applied for some type of visa for me back in 1961. What does my having applied for a visa have to do with Oswald and his application for a Cuban visa?

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #186 on: January 27, 2019, 10:53:30 PM »
Dear Walter,

I believe ...

... THAT YOU ARE FULL OF BEANS.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

Hey, MWT. I agree with you that Foghorn is indeed FOB but that's not the purpose of my post. If someone described a person as having sandy hair would that be considered as having blond hair?


See Confidential Informant T-6 NO description of the man handing out "Hands Off Cuba, Viva Fidel" leaflets on August 9th in Canal St. It think she's describing Lee Harvey Oswald.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=782&tab=page
 

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #187 on: January 27, 2019, 11:35:55 PM »
Hey, MWT. I agree with you that Foghorn is indeed FOB but that's not the purpose of my post. If someone described a person as having sandy hair would that be considered as having blond hair?


See Confidential Informant T-6 NO description of the man handing out "Hands Off Cuba, Viva Fidel" leaflets on August 9th in Canal St. It think she's describing Lee Harvey Oswald.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=782&tab=page
 


Dear Oscar,

It looks as though Confidential Informant NO T-6 was pretty good at estimating Oswald's height (he was 5' 9.5"), weight (he weighed 133 lbs. at autopsy, and body type (he was thin), but lousy at estimating his age (he was only 23 at the time) and his hair color.

Regardless, Sylvia Duran said that the "Oswald" she'd dealt with was about the same height as her (she was 5' 3.5"), that he had blue or green eyes, and that he had an "elongated" face. 

Nikolai Leonov not only had blond hair (i.e. like Marilyn Monroe or Tab Hunter) and was thin, but he was only 5' 7" tall, and yep, had blue eyes, and a very thin (i.e. elongated) face.

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  Oh yeah, and Leonov was 35 years-of-age on 9/27/63, and was in the habit of wearing a suit during working hours (seein' as how he was a "diplomat"), which jibes perfectly with the way Eusebio Azcue described the "Oswald" he'd allegedly dealt with on Friday, September 27, 1963.
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #188 on: January 28, 2019, 12:12:38 AM »
  As to Oswald's new passport I don't see the significance of it's whereabouts. 
A visa is placed/attached in the passport. That is why I asked. The whereabouts of that passport would be quite significant. If there was a passport presented and in place---the Warren supporters would herald a resounding 'there you go!'...lets not kid ourselves.
Probably thousands of Americans traveled to Cuba during the boycott days. Many went for medical reasons. Hospital care was much cheaper. I don't know that anyone was ever charged with an infraction.
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American citizens didn't even need a US passport to get into Mexico. All they need was a birth certificate, a certificate of naturalization or just a signed pledge saying who they were if they claimed to be American.
They didn't even need that much as I wrote pages ago. Perhaps you meant Cuba?
So, I still maintain the possibility that an imposter went to Mexico in Oswald's name and made everything for an elaborate show.