Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting

[Oscar Navarro]

Me
Brennan claimed he could have identified Oswald but was afraid it was a communist conspiracy and that he and his family might be in danger. In his WC testimony he was sure Oswald was the man he saw shoot.

Jerry
Probably told to say that.


Of course! Brennan was one among a cast of dozens, if not hundreds, involved in a coverup. 

[Oscar Navarro]

They do list 12.21......seems they are wrong.

12:22 pm 1 Escort drop back, go real slow speed now
approaching Main.
531-15-2 You reading?
15-2-531 10-4.
1 Hold up escort, CK, move along.

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/D%20Disk/Dallas%20Police%20Department/Dallas%20Police%20Department%20Records/Volume%2004/Item%2001.pdf

Looks like there was an announcement about Main after all.....about 12.22. Was hearing this the trigger for Jarman and Norman to stop going with Givens and turn back to the depository? They realized they had time to get a better view from the 5th floor.

Truly states he saw the three leave the front of the TSBD but two return.

I don't believe there's any evidence other than the claim made by Norman that anybody heard the DPD radio call. The most likely scenario is that Norman and Jarman just wanted a better view of the motorcade. The three guys Truly saw were most likely Givens, Jarman and Norman.

[Oscar Navarro]

The picture is shown looking south and you can see the "rifle rest boxes" in the window. Therefore these do not represent the area that BRW indicated. He was vague but said it was around the 3rd to 4th series of windows. This was the place that Day enquired the employees about on the following Monday and represented the spot where Studebaker had informed Day they had been found. They had been moved to this spot from where Mooney indicated, the SN, likely by Gerald Hill, prior to the arrival of Fritz and co.

How were they covering for BRW? Why would they feel the need to do so?

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. One of the boxes (the one closest to the viewer) marked by Mooney on CE-513 formed part of the west wall of the SN. below is the view of the SN as seen looking from N to S. It is to the right (or West) of the area shown in CE-508 that BRW had lunch. BRW could have just walked over to the boxes forming the SN, looked inside, and seeing no one placed the chicken bone and the lunch bag on top of the box.

I don't believe Norman and Jarman were covering for BRW. They got together before their WC testimony and ironed out their different versions, i. e., who went down which elevator, but not to discuss whether either guy had to address the alleged cover up of BRW because they weren't covering up for BRW. Notice how both Junior and Harold stuck to their timeline of when they decided to go to the fifth floor. That doesn't jive with BRW timeline. If they had wanted to cover for BRW the timeline would have been the same.

[Walt Cakebread]

I also am a skeptic.  Only speculation...perhaps he was told to in advance or on the phone by someone.  Probably told to say that.

Brennan claimed he could have identified Oswald but was afraid it was a communist conspiracy and that he and his family might be in danger. In his WC testimony he was sure Oswald was the man he saw shoot.

OK...Now you're going to have to explain Why Brennan described the man that he saw aiming a HIGH POWERED ( ie; Hunting rifle) as in his thirties, weighing 175 pounds, and wearing dingy white khaki clothing....  The WC found that Lee Oswald was just 24 , he weighed 131 pounds, the rifle that was allegedly his, was an old military rifle, ans he didn't even own any dingy white khaki clothing.....

Do you really believe that Howard Brennan could have identified Lee Oswald as the man he saw???

[Oscar Navarro]

Brennan claimed he could have identified Oswald but was afraid it was a communist conspiracy and that he and his family might be in danger. In his WC testimony he was sure Oswald was the man he saw shoot.

OK...Now you're going to have to explain Why Brennan described the man that he saw aiming a HIGH POWERED ( ie; Hunting rifle) as in his thirties, weighing 175 pounds, and wearing dingy white khaki clothing....  The WC found that Lee Oswald was just 24 , he weighed 131 pounds, the rifle that was allegedly his, was an old military rifle, ans he didn't even own any dingy white khaki clothing.....

Do you really believe that Howard Brennan could have identified Lee Oswald as the man he saw???

What's with the HIGH POWERED capitalized! What's the big deal? Anyhow, it's not what I believe but that Brennan believed he could have identified Oswald as the shooter. I believe that in the show up Brennan identified Oswald as the closest in appearance to the man he saw. That's after having second thoughts about getting involved. All we have is Brennan's testimony to go by and if he says he could have positively identified Oswald as the shooter there's no reason to doubt him. There's nothing that I'm aware of that has cast doubts about Brennan being anything but an honest man.

[Walt Cakebread]

The picture is shown looking south and you can see the "rifle rest boxes" in the window. Therefore these do not represent the area that BRW indicated. He was vague but said it was around the 3rd to 4th series of windows. This was the place that Day enquired the employees about on the following Monday and represented the spot where Studebaker had informed Day they had been found. They had been moved to this spot from where Mooney indicated, the SN, likely by Gerald Hill, prior to the arrival of Fritz and co.

How were they covering for BRW? Why would they feel the need to do so?

The picture is shown looking south and you can see the "rifle rest boxes" in the window.

That's right Colin....Now imagine yourself to be sitting on a box to the left of the "rifle rest boxes" and trying to utilize those boxes as a steady rest for firing a rifle.

HOW tall would you need to be to enable you to decline the muzzle of the rifle so that you could hit a target down on Elm street?

[Walt Cakebread]

What's with the HIGH POWERED capitalized! What's the big deal? Anyhow, it's not what I believe but that Brennan believed he could have identified Oswald as the shooter. I believe that in the show up Brennan identified Oswald as the closest in appearance to the man he saw. That's after having second thoughts about getting involved. All we have is Brennan's testimony to go by and if he says he could have positively identified Oswald as the shooter there's no reason to doubt him. There's nothing that I'm aware of that has cast doubts about Brennan being anything but an honest man.

What's with the HIGH POWERED capitalized! What's the big deal?

Howard Brennan used the term "HIGH POWERED RIFLE" to describe the weapon that he saw in the hands of the 175 pound  man in the light colored Khaki clothing .....

We can know that Brennan could have used an alternate term of big game HUNTING RIFLE  in place of "HIGH POWERED RIFLE.   And since Brennan was the source for the description of the suspect that was broadcast over the police radio at 12:45 we can be certain that Brennan was referring to a HUNTING RIFLE, because the police broadcast said that the suspect was armed with a "30 caliber rifle, possibly a 30.30 Winchester".   That information had to have come from Howard Brennan....

And Brennan definitely DID NOT tell the police that the man was aiming a old military rifle.......   

[Oscar Navarro]

What's with the HIGH POWERED capitalized! What's the big deal?

Howard Brennan used the term "HIGH POWERED RIFLE" to describe the weapon that he saw in the hands of the 175 pound  man in the light colored Khaki clothing .....

We can know that Brennan could have used an alternate term of big game HUNTING RIFLE  in place of "HIGH POWERED RIFLE.   And since Brennan was the source for the description of the suspect that was broadcast over the police radio at 12:45 we can be certain that Brennan was referring to a HUNTING RIFLE, because the police broadcast said that the suspect was armed with a "30 caliber rifle, possibly a 30.30 Winchester".   That information had to have come from Howard Brennan....

And Brennan definitely DID NOT tell the police that the man was aiming a old military rifle.......

Brennan could have based his description due to the loud sound made by the discharge, i.e., high powered rifle. Brennan never said it was a 30.30 Winchester so that description could have come from Sawyer's interpretation of what Brennan said or from another witness who might have identified the rifle as a 30.30 Winchester. That's a repeating rifle and some witnesses thought they heard rapid shots.