An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?

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Offline Brian Walker

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Re: An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2019, 04:27:15 PM »
Yeah he took a shot at walker, fine
then he waited and brooded
I know what I'll do.I'll get a job in a random high building and wait...
It's only a matter of time until someone famous comes by and BLAM
hey hey I'm famous

What an incredible plan
In the history of infamous assassinations there has never been a more
ridiculous murder plan than this
but according to the "official" version this is what happened


Whats that Ruth you have found a job opening in a random high building?
this could be it,my unlikely opportunity
Sure I'll go for an interview
I'll just work like there's nothing up and wait...
I might have to work here for the rest of my life waiting
but It'll be all worth it in the...who? I'm not shooting Roy Orbison? what? the leader of the free world? when? He's coming on FRIDAY?
That's in 2 days time!

How many presidents have ever driven through Dealey plaza before?
ever?
none?
but I am feeling super lucky...

Oh happy days under 5 weeks I had to wait
My work boots aren't even worn in yet
wow I must be the luckiest assassin in history
especially as I can't drive anywhere
My target is coming to me
I couldn't have PLANNED this better!

The Dallas DA says he obviously planned this months in advance
NO - He didn't, but obviously someone has...

It is the timeframe we are considering that is the real problem here
5 weeks? It just turbo charges the odds and it becomes
simply unbelievable


HE was either an "opportunistic killer" or he was setup
what does the evidence suggest to you?


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This is where the evidence has been "crisscrossed" and contradicted itself
the walker evidence vs the opportunistic killer - crisscross

Similar to the WC evidence that LHO was seen at a rifle range near RP's house
on sat the 16th.
He did not go to Irving that weekend so had no access to his rifle
AND he did still not know JFK was driving past the TSBD so why practice?

The JB evidence where he claims he heard a description on radio
of the JD killer. Which did not get broadcast at all.JD was confirmed DOA at @1.50 pm which also contradicts his evidence.another crisscross

crisscross I'l make ya,jump jump
the hatmaker make ya jump,jump

You are looking at it all wrong.  JFK while President rode by millions of people in an open limo. He finally ran into a nut who had the chance.

I don't know anyone who claims that Oswald planned this for months.

Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2019, 08:58:45 PM »
You are looking at it all wrong.  JFK while President rode by millions of people in an open limo. He finally ran into a nut who had the chance.

I don't know anyone who claims that Oswald planned this for months.

I'm looking at it wrong?

like the zapruder film critics? they say that too, you are looking at it wrong

So out of those millions of people how many do you think were
former marines who denounced their US citizenship then were allowed
back into the country and were under active federal surveillance at the time?

What you are saying is reasonable but ignores the timeline.
If he worked there for a year I couldn't say this
If he worked there for 6 months it would be debatable
If he worked there for 3 months it would be highly suspicious
Under 5 weeks? NO NO NO NO CHANCE.

This is a deliberate placement
The guy said he was a patsy
and was promptly dispatched
A communist in Texas? - someone everybody can hate
Do I have to draw you a picture?

 If it walks like a donkey
and  neigh's like a donkey
yeah its a donkey alright

It was DA henry wade's initial assessment of the crime that it was planned
months in advance.In a public statement


« Last Edit: January 05, 2019, 09:28:38 PM by Eddie Haymaker »

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2019, 11:13:06 PM »
You are looking at it all wrong.  JFK while President rode by millions of people in an open limo. He finally ran into a nut who had the chance.

Millions of people?  ;D

I agree that someone has to win the lottery, but the long odds here refer to JFK running into a lone nut who wanted to kill him and that his killer got a job at the TSBD 3 weeks after the motorcade route was finalized which would take him within 60 feet of his killer via an unorthodox turn onto Elm St. JFK was being served up on a silver platter. Why Oswald didn't take a shot then is the biggest mystery.

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I don't know anyone who claims that Oswald planned this for months.

No, but the conspirators did and Oswald was Plan B. Thomas Arthur Vallee was Plan A in Chicago on Nov 2nd, 1963, which got nixed after rumor got out of an assassination attempt.

Oswald got his job Oct 5th, 1963, 3 weeks before the Chicago hit was put in jeopardy when a landlady ratted out 4 hitmen to the SS, who subsequently scrubbed the Chicago mission and went with Plan B in Dallas.

And if all these events were just coincidences, then I'll eat a bug.


Offline Brian Walker

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Re: An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2019, 02:47:36 AM »
Millions of people?  ;D

I agree that someone has to win the lottery, but the long odds here refer to JFK running into a lone nut who wanted to kill him and that his killer got a job at the TSBD 3 weeks after the motorcade route was finalized which would take him within 60 feet of his killer via an unorthodox turn onto Elm St. JFK was being served up on a silver platter. Why Oswald didn't take a shot then is the biggest mystery.

No, but the conspirators did and Oswald was Plan B. Thomas Arthur Vallee was Plan A in Chicago on Nov 2nd, 1963, which got nixed after rumor got out of an assassination attempt.

Oswald got his job Oct 5th, 1963, 3 weeks before the Chicago hit was put in jeopardy when a landlady ratted out 4 hitmen to the SS, who subsequently scrubbed the Chicago mission and went with Plan B in Dallas.

And if all these events were just coincidences, then I'll eat a bug.

Yes JFK rode in motorcades in front of millions of people when he was President. When you ride in a slow moving open limo ( JFK's choice ) you serve yourself up on a silver platter.

It is not a mystery why Oswald did not take the shot then and this has been rehashed over and over again.

So the SS was protecting JFK in Chicago but not in Dallas? Is that your argument? There is no evidence that Vallee threatened to or was going to shoot at JFK. That is one more CK myth.

Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2019, 04:44:01 AM »
October 16, 1963: LHO begins work at the TSBD.

thats UNDER 5 Weeks.

Does he apply for a dozen jobs all along the motorcade route? No

Does he bring his pistol? no

Is ammunition found amongst his belongings at the Payne's? No

Does he have an opportunity to sight his rifle ? No

He is seen at the Sports Drome Rifle Range on the 16th Nov
by Dr Homer Wood and his Son but according to RP and MO
(WC Testimony) He does not travel to Irving that weekend at all
 so had no access to the MC


According to the Government's version of events LHO had no idea JFK
was driving near his building until the 19th (Tuesday) at the earliest

Something is rotten in Denmark



« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 10:26:51 AM by Eddie Haymaker »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2019, 09:33:17 PM »
There is no evidence that Vallee threatened to or was going to shoot at JFK. That is one more CK myth.

There's no evidence that Oswald did either.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: An opportunistic killer or a conspiracy to murder?
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2019, 11:23:06 PM »
Yes JFK rode in motorcades in front of millions of people when he was President. When you ride in a slow moving open limo ( JFK's choice ) you serve yourself up on a silver platter.

It is not a mystery why Oswald did not take the shot then and this has been rehashed over and over again.

So the SS was protecting JFK in Chicago but not in Dallas? Is that your argument? There is no evidence that Vallee threatened to or was going to shoot at JFK. That is one more CK myth.

Not threatening to shoot Kennedy would be the smart move if one was indeed going to make such an attempt.