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Offline Joffrey van de Wiel

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2019, 02:30:49 PM »
When you start playing this game, why don't you first name the witnesses who actually saw a rifle being fired from the window on the 6th floor of the TSBD?

Howard Brennan? Harold Weisberg called him "the least credible man in the world." Or Amos Euins? And there were, as I recall, three ear-witnesses on the fifth floor of the TSBD who heard the shots being fired, the working of the bolt and the shells dropping on the floor above them. Of course all this is disputed.

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Offline Joe Mannix

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2019, 02:36:38 PM »
Well?

1. JD Tippit

2. The dead "Secret Service agent"

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2019, 02:37:17 PM »
Howard Brennan? Harold Weisberg called him "the least credible man in the world." Or Amos Euins? And there were, as I recall, three ear-witnesses on the fifth floor of the TSBD who heard the shots being fired, the working of the bolt and the shells dropping on the floor above them. Of course all this is disputed.

Neither Brennan or Euins saw a rifle being fired from the 6th floor window. They just saw a man up there. And if we are going to go with ear-witnesses than we can just as easily go with Sam Holland who saw a puff of smoke coming from the grassy knoll.

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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2019, 05:26:47 PM »
I said witnesses
Both JFK and JC were shot in their backs. Either by the same bullet or separate ones.

How does a shooter from the GK - and only there - shoot them in the back? Did he shoot them after the limo passed by?

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2019, 06:12:19 PM »

There is also a video of him standing at the location where he was on 11/22/63 in which he showed the concrete pillar he ducked behind, but I haven't found that one yet.

I found this video created by Dave the Insurance Guy in which he presents 3 eye witnesses: Amos Euins at 7:30, Robert Jackson at 10:28 and Howard Brennan at 12:54. Mr Euins reenacts his movements on November 22nd, 1963, including his ducking behind a pillar.


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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2019, 10:31:49 PM »
    Euins was recorded by HSCA staff regarding his having Camera with him and his taking photos inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63. Strange, but as the years passed by, that Camera has disappeared from the story Euin's is telling.   
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2019, 10:57:18 PM »
    Euins was recorded by HSCA staff regarding his having Camera with him and his taking photos inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63. Strange, but as the years passed by, that Camera has disappeared from the story Euin's is telling.

Euins story in the video is very different from the story he told on the afternoon of the coup d e'tat.

No doubt he's found fame by telling people what they want to hear.   One startling difference is that on 11 /22/ 63 he did not see a rifle...He said he saw a a " pipe like thing"

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2019, 11:34:49 PM »
Euins story in the video is very different from the story he told on the afternoon of the coup d e'tat.

No doubt he's found fame by telling people what they want to hear.   One startling difference is that on 11 /22/ 63 he did not see a rifle...He said he saw a a " pipe like thing"

       When Euins told the HSCA Investigators he had a camera and took photos on 11/22/63 he was no longer a kid. His Now deleting the camera portion of his story reflects on his credibility. I believe he was there inside Dealey Plaza. What he actually witnessed is subject to question.

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Offline Joffrey van de Wiel

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2019, 11:59:17 AM »
Euins story in the video is very different from the story he told on the afternoon of the coup d e'tat.

No doubt he's found fame by telling people what they want to hear.   One startling difference is that on 11 /22/ 63 he did not see a rifle...He said he saw a a " pipe like thing"

Another aspect of Euins' story that changed is that he initially stated he heard four shots. I think he and Jackson are credible witnesses, Brennan not so much. He claimed he saw the sniper move in a way that was physically impossible and especially noticed his unhurried demeanor, which contradicts the Commission's assumption that Oswald rushed downstairs immediately after the shots.

Most witnesses identified the TSBD and/or the grassy knoll as the location of the sniper and source of at least part of the shots. I think it is both for this reason: fake Secret Service agents were observed on both locations immediately following the assassination. These impostors were either deployed to cover the escape of the assassins or were the actual shooters; one of them had a gun under his jacket.

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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2019, 08:14:06 PM »
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