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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald spent shells fingerprints?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2019, 03:01:11 PM »
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I've said for years that the Dallas Police were the most inept and stupid police department that I've ever known to exist on 11/22/63. Police Departments today must be laughing their asses off at them. I can't believe the mistakes they made.

Mistakes??....  They were the LAW..... They decided who was guilty and then set about sending that poor sucker to prison.  That's the way things were done in Henry Wade's and LBJ's Texas.... 

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2019, 07:17:20 PM »
Mr. BELIN. Could you tell us what exactly you did in testing those hulls for fingerprints?
Mr. DAY. I used fingerprint powder, dusted them with the powder, a dark powder. No legible prints were found. 
They didn't find the Davis or Benavides fingerprints on the shells? [After they stated they handled them] Well that's weird is it not?
 

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Re: Oswald spent shells fingerprints?
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2019, 07:25:28 PM »
They didn't find the Davis or Benavides fingerprints on the shells? [After they stated they handled them] Well that's weird is it not?

Perhaps the shells they checked for finger prints are not the shells that Davis and Dom Benavides picked up.....  I have long suspected that the shells before the WC were NOT the shells that were found at the Tippit scene.

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Re: Oswald spent shells fingerprints?
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2019, 12:18:45 AM »
Maybe Dallas PD were accustomed to kicking a confession out of a suspect they thought was guilty. With a confession and guilty plea there's no need for evidence. Maybe that's unfair but they certainly seemed to be quite blase about a lot of things in the case.

Fritz's testimony regarding not taking notes because they were old school and had been trained to have reliable memories is astounding considering he struggled to answer many of the WC's questions. Maybe he was better when he was younger.

I believe that beating a confession out of some poor soul was SOP in  Henry Wade's Texas..... And when Lee Oswald refused to comply, they robbed him of the ability to deny their accusations.... 

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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2019, 03:22:15 PM »
I believe that beating a confession out of some poor soul was SOP in  Henry Wade's Texas..... And when Lee Oswald refused to comply, they robbed him of the ability to deny their accusations....
You're talking about the police having to be nice to this Oswald fellow, who would murder a guard if he could overpower him. Yet there's not a mark on him that wasn't there when he was bought in. DPD's biggest problem was they accommodated the press too much.
You see this mistake today in America when police hold press conferences the day of a massacre or controversial shooting, and release details, and not soon after the 911 calls, etc. Compared with Canada where most details are kept confidential until brought out in trial.

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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2019, 03:42:06 PM »
You're talking about the police having to be nice to this Oswald fellow, who would murder a guard if he could overpower him. Yet there's not a mark on him that wasn't there when he was bought in. DPD's biggest problem was they accommodated the press too much.
You see this mistake today in America when police hold press conferences the day of a massacre or controversial shooting, and release details, and not soon after the 911 calls, etc. Compared with Canada where most details are kept confidential until brought out in trial.

You're talking about the police having to be nice to this Oswald fellow, who would murder a guard if he could overpower him.

Would it be too much trouble for you to provide just an iota of evidence that Lee Oswald was a brute "who would murder a guard if he could overpower him. "

In Henry Wades Texas they also kept the evidence from the public....Just like Canada....   It was much easier to dupe the public, and convict an Oswald, in the days before cell phone cameras and the internet.   

Would you please post the map of the sixth floor that was created by Detective Robert Studebaker.


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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2019, 09:48:30 PM »
The Dallas PD did a terrible job investigating the JFK murder:
1) Limited their search immediately after the killing to the TBD and grassy knoll area
2) Failed to follow SOP for chain of custody for evidence
3) Allowed the crime scene to be removed to Wash. DC ( President's limo)
4) Allowed the body of JFK to be removed to Wash DC without an autopsy being performed. Texas State law REQUIRED it!
5) Allowed the media total access to the DPD HQ's during an ongoing investigation- totally insane!
6) Failed to allow the accused  legal repesentation BEFORE questioning.
7) Failed to document interviews with the accused
8) Failed to protect the accused from harm while in custody ( LHO shooting)
9) Took photo and video evidence from witnesses without due process, a warrant, or any legal basis. And NEVER returned them.
10) Bowed to the wishes of the FBI, SS, and CIA to take over the investigation despite the fact that there was no Federal law that governed the killing of a President. Thus absconding their duty to the public to " protect and defend"

11) etc, etc, etc....   It's pretty evident that DPD either was totally incompetant, OR.....were a part of something.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald spent shells fingerprints?
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2019, 11:37:00 PM »
The Dallas PD did a terrible job investigating the JFK murder:
1) Limited their search immediately after the killing to the TBD and grassy knoll area
2) Failed to follow SOP for chain of custody for evidence
3) Allowed the crime scene to be removed to Wash. DC ( President's limo)
4) Allowed the body of JFK to be removed to Wash DC without an autopsy being performed. Texas State law REQUIRED it!
5) Allowed the media total access to the DPD HQ's during an ongoing investigation- totally insane!
6) Failed to allow the accused  legal repesentation BEFORE questioning.
7) Failed to document interviews with the accused
8) Failed to protect the accused from harm while in custody ( LHO shooting)
9) Took photo and video evidence from witnesses without due process, a warrant, or any legal basis. And NEVER returned them.
10) Bowed to the wishes of the FBI, SS, and CIA to take over the investigation despite the fact that there was no Federal law that governed the killing of a President. Thus absconding their duty to the public to " protect and defend"

11) etc, etc, etc....   It's pretty evident that DPD either was totally incompetant, OR.....were a part of something.

They were a bunch of Rednecks...but not that incompetent.  They clearly took fake photos of the "crime scene" and presented those photos as authentic photos of the scene.  And Day and Fritz lied their eyes out...to frame Lee Oswald.