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Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2018, 09:08:00 PM »
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2018, 10:13:33 PM »
Mr Brewer and Mr Bugliosi have Oswald at Hardy's at 1.15pm regardless

So it doesn't really matter If JD was shot between 1.10pm and 1.15pm

Either way LHO could not have done it

not If he's on West Jefferson at 1.15pm

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2018, 10:15:39 PM »
In my younger years, I was a daily user of public transportation. When you need to rely on a bus or a train to get to work or school, you make it your business to commit the transit schedule to memory and before you know it, you are into a daily routine that you rarely, if ever, deviate from. Helen Markham was clearly not a great witness - but she had a job that she had to arrive at within a certain time frame that required her to board a bus that left from her bus stop at a particular time each day - that time was prior to 1:15 - the fact that she was a block away from her bus stop and witnessed the murder at 10th and Patton goes a long way in exonerating Lee Harvey Oswald of the Tippit killing. When you add Markham's testimony about her bus schedule to Bowley's checking of his watch, one cannot come to any conclusion other than the inescapable one that Tippit was killed prior to 1:10 - closer to 1:06 - 1:08 - thus making Oswald's trek from his rooming house to 10th and Patton highly unlikely and perhaps impossible.

Hi Joe, You may be interested in listening to Domingo Benavides tell what he saw at the time officer Tippit was shot. 

Here's a link to a youtube video....
Very early in the video he refers to the killer as "this other man"  ...Since the video was filmed in about 1965 Mr Benevides certainly knew that " this other man" was commonly known as Lee Harvey Oswald....  So WHY wouldn't Benavides simply have said " Oswald shot him"  ???

The answer is obvious....Benavides KNEW that Lee Oswald was not the killer.

Also in the video Benavides describes the killer unloading the revolver and tossing a couple of shells in the bushes and looking directly at Benevides, so there's no doubt that Benavides got a excellent look at the killer's face. ... And Benavides is NOT describing the unloading of a S&W revolver.....

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2018, 10:59:27 PM »
Hi Joe, You may be interested in listening to Domingo Benavides tell what he saw at the time officer Tippit was shot. 

Here's a link to a youtube video....
Very early in the video he refers to the killer as "this other man"  ...Since the video was filmed in about 1965 Mr Benevides certainly knew that " this other man" was commonly known as Lee Harvey Oswald....  So WHY wouldn't Benavides simply have said " Oswald shot him"  ???

The answer is obvious....Benavides KNEW that Lee Oswald was not the killer.

Also in the video Benavides describes the killer unloading the revolver and tossing a couple of shells in the bushes and looking directly at Benevides, so there's no doubt that Benavides got a excellent look at the killer's face. ... And Benavides is NOT describing the unloading of a S&W revolver.....
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More to the point, he didn't know Oswald's name at the time
Seems to me an honest and fair approach on Benavides' part.

Riiiiiight!!.....   Dom Benavides was involved as a prime witness...and you actually believe that he wouldn't have know that Lee Oswald was the man who was known ( falsely)  world wide as the assassin of JFK.    IOW...Literally everybody knew the name Lee Harvey Oswald.    Well,everybody except Benavides.... who was probably more attuned to the case than 99% of the population.

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2018, 11:02:46 PM »
Now we are getting somewhere

Mr Benavides the most reliable witness at this scene was close enough to see the killer throw the shells in a bush. The other eyewitness testimony from the JD scene is confused at best IMO.He refused to ID Oswald.Look at where the vehicles are situated - this is as they were on the day.Very close.

For me the most credible witness at the scene

He even collected shells for police

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2018, 11:17:03 PM »
Now we are getting somewhere

Mr Benavides the most reliable witness at this scene was close enough to see the killer throw the shells in a bush. The other eyewitness testimony from the JD scene is confused at best IMO.He refused to ID Oswald.Look at where the vehicles are situated - this is as they were on the day.Very close.

For me the most credible witness at the scene

He even collected shells for police

I agree...Dom Benavides was THE prime witness....He saw the murder,... He looked directly into the face of the killer....He saw and described, the action taken by the killer in unloading the revolver ( It was NOT a S&W) 

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2018, 11:20:35 PM »
Riiiiiight!!.....   Dom Benavides was involved as a prime witness...and you actually believe that he wouldn't have know that Lee Oswald was the man who was known ( falsely)  world wide as the assassin of JFK.    IOW...Literally everybody knew the name Lee Harvey Oswald.    Well,everybody except Benavides.... who was probably more attuned to the case than 99% of the population.

Do you enjoy making a fool of yourself, Chappie?

I enjoy observing yours, Waldo.

It's on full display yet again:

Answer this: Did DomB know the name of the 'other guy' AT THE TIME HE WAS OBSERVING THE CRIME, OR NOT?

Tell us just how more fair he could he have been to Oswald, given that he himself said he couldn't have been sure in identifying Oswald in a lineup that day...
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Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #55 on: December 28, 2018, 11:56:00 PM »

Maybe DB just had

I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y

(the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles)

unlike most of the other JD witnesses who crumbled quickly under DPD pressure

Did DB know Oswald? god don't be so ridiculous

construct a decent argument

Don't just throw crap around and see what sticks