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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2018, 03:32:25 AM »
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C'mon semantics bud semantics

His WR evidence is much the same

Its a shame its impossible though

Of course news of the JD shooting is not broadcast at @1.15pm

even If he was killed sooner that is way too soon

The world is waiting to hear If JFK is officially dead or not

It takes until around 1.50pm before news of the JD shooting is broadcast

on public radio (KLIF Dallas)

Brewer says he never heard the word of JFK's death on the radio

which proves between 1.15pm and 1.30om Brewer was not in his shop

when the official news broke of JFK's official demise. (@1.30pm)

 ???

You lost me at "Right off the bat Mr Bugliosi states Mr Brewer first sights LHO at about 1.15pm"

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2018, 03:32:25 AM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2018, 03:38:29 AM »
We can't get bogged down with all the BS witnesses at the JD crime scene

We got 10 witnesses with 11 different stories

Some change their mind about who and what they saw

But If Mr Benavides waited for the fleeing suspect to leave then checked JD
and went straight to the police radio like he say's that would fit the evidence.They get the message between 1.15pm and 1.17pm then they dispatch officer down at 1.18pm.

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Oswald leaves his rooming house at around 1.03pm

are you suggesting he sprints to east 10th arriving in around 6 minutes?

Or by 1.06pm 3 minutes

Is LHO a world class athlete now?

well he's a world class marksman too

He should have been in the Olympics

Who was closer than Mr Benavides to the crime scene?

No sorry, I trump your 2 witnesses easily with the standing evidence

We all know of Mrs Markhams credibility as a witness

As I look through the internet between 1.14-1.16 pm is widely accepted

by believers and non-believers as the time of JD's death.

Is there a famous author or personality who says otherwise?


Was there a famous author or personality at the Tippet crime scene?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2018, 03:39:34 AM »
  Brewer heard about the Oak Cliff shooting at about 1:15... 
How can someone 'hear' about a shooting at 1:15 when the Warren Report said it didn't even happen until perhaps one minute later?
 
 

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2018, 03:39:34 AM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2018, 03:43:15 AM »
How can someone 'hear' about a shooting at 1:15 when the Warren Report said it didn't even happen until perhaps one minute later?

you missed the "about" 1:15 in my post
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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2018, 03:55:01 AM »

Right off the bat Mr Bugliosi states Mr Brewer first sights LHO at about 1.15pm

This is a problem because evidence suggests @1.15pm as the time

JDT is shot and killed

He also say's JB heard about the death of an officer at the SAME TIME

This is impossible - the first police radio reports to a shooting are

time stamped around 1.18pm and radio did not report it until @1.50pm (KLIF)

Mr Brewer observes the police reacting at around 1.18pm



LHO simply cannot make it to the TT by around 1.15pm and kill JDT

Besides that is the time JDT is shot.

LHO cannot have done it

according to dispatch records first alert to TT is 1.36pm which is reasonable

considering Mr Brewer does look through the TT for LHO before alerting police



This is the direct route to the TT having gone no where near the JD crime scene and it works in perfectly with most other evidence as to the timeline. Arriving at around 1.18pm. Which is about perfect given all the eyewitness evidence and the sudden arrival of police responding to Mr Benavides call for help on JD?s radio.

Jesse Curry confirms this timeline himself in a recorded interview which is damning to the case against Oswald.



This is the direct route to the JD scene. He could make it in time to shoot JD at 1.15pm If he walked fast and went directly to JD?s location. (even this is generous as the warren commission asserts 1.03pm as his official departure time)

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That STAMPS LHO at Hardy?s at around 1.16 pm and entering the TT before 1.20 pm corroborating the eye witness accounts of 4 men Burroughs,Davis,Benevidez and Curry. Just before the movie starts at 1.20pm

Its not "he didn't do it"

It's "he physically can't have done it"

Time this

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2018, 03:55:01 AM »


Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2018, 05:55:01 AM »
You obviously didn't watch this yourself?

It supports my conclusions 100% ;D ;D

I HAVE seen this before - I laughed out loud when I saw you posted it

11 minutes plus he left around 1.03pm so that is 1.14pm arrival time

shoots JD at around 1.15pm

He can't be at Mr Brewers store at around 1.15pm now can he?

He may be an Olympian but he cannot teleport

Hey thanks for that

Confirmed by a lone nutter

"Mr. BALL.. How long did he stay in the room ?
Mr. ROBERTS. Oh, maybe not over 3 or 4 minutes-just long enough, I guess, to go in there and get a jacket and put it on and he went out zipping it."

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2018, 06:46:16 AM »
How can someone 'hear' about a shooting at 1:15 when the Warren Report said it didn't even happen until perhaps one minute later?

Don't forget this is the busiest news time on radio...ever

The world was waiting to hear If Kennedy would pull through

or was officially dead. Between roughly  1.25-.135pm the first official

confirmation was broadcast on public radio regarding the death

No news therefore came through about the JD murder until around

1.50pm - Which is about 30 minutes after the event

Nobody heard about the JD murder at around 1.15pm on public radio

He wasn't even declared dead until around 1.28pm

(the ambulance to the Methodist hospital is a @10 minute round trip)

more evidence towards a 1.15pm shooting
« Last Edit: December 27, 2018, 07:22:33 AM by Eddie Haymaker »

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: JD Tippit - Serious timing issues
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2018, 03:06:06 PM »
Don't forget this is the busiest news time on radio...ever

The world was waiting to hear If Kennedy would pull through

or was officially dead. Between roughly  1.25-.135pm the first official

confirmation was broadcast on public radio regarding the death

No news therefore came through about the JD murder until around

1.50pm - Which is about 30 minutes after the event

Nobody heard about the JD murder at around 1.15pm on public radio

He wasn't even declared dead until around 1.28pm

(the ambulance to the Methodist hospital is a @10 minute round trip)

more evidence towards a 1.15pm shooting

This is a problem because evidence suggests @1.15pm as the time JDT is shot and killed

Perhaps you've never read TF Bowley's or Helen Markham's affidavits,

Markham was on her way to catch a 1:12 Bus when she saw JD Tippit shot to death....  She said she left her apartment house at 1:00 and had walked one  block to the corner of 10th and Patton when she spotted the police car cruising slowly along 10th street tailing a man who was walking east on the sidewalk on the south side of 10th street.  Her affidavit states the time was 1:06.....And she restated that time in testifying before the warren commission...

TF Bowley said that he arrived on the scene in his car after having picked up his daughter at school ....Bowley said he looked at his watch when he got out of his car where Tippit was lying on the street... Bowley said that the time was 1:10.

Tippit was not shot at 1:15.....