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Offline Andrew Mason

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2018, 04:38:52 PM »
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buddy

This case is a donkey

The bullet has to hit JFK well into his neck

and not his back

I have proven why on this thread

If you dont think so - prove otherwise

stop with the broken record routine
Just as I expected: Your inability to answer the simple questions show that you have not actually worked out the trajectory. So why would you expect us to treat your objection to the path through JFK seriously?

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2018, 04:50:12 PM »
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This simple picture totally destroys the Magic Bullet Myth

It is taken by an unassuming photographer at parkland minutes after arrival

Its a clear perfectly round symmetrical bullet impact and not a ricochet


By knowing the dimensions of the rear view mirror bracket and scaling the photo, it's possible to find the dimension of the bullet that made the dent in the chrome molding....  I performed this exercise decades ago and found that the bullet was either a .44 or a .45 caliber bullet....  Since a .45 caliber ACP cartridge fires a bullet at subsonic velocity, and that big slow moving bullet has very poor penetrating ability , I suspect that the bullet that made the dent was fired from a .45 caliber weapon.
You may have a point that the photograph could help disprove the SBT.  As far as I know, the FBI did not extract any metal from the windshield frame when gathering and weighing all the bullet fragments.  That was a significant fragment and some or all of it may have been embedded deep into the frame.  If the fragments exceed the mass of a 6.5 mm bullet, that would disprove the SBT by itself.

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2018, 07:25:08 PM »
well, I don't know about all that

but that bullet looks small

To me it looks like a 5.56 mm

The hole in JFK's shirt is also very small

it all fits

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2018, 09:12:06 PM »
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well, I don't know about all that

but that bullet looks small

To me it looks like a 5.56 mm

The hole in JFK's shirt is also very small

it all fits
The difference between 5.56 mm and 6.5 mm. is less than a millimetre!!  You can see that it is 5.56 and not 6.5 mm just by looking at a photo of a single bullet hole without measurement? 

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2018, 09:58:20 PM »
I would have thought I made it clear it was my opinion

It is a terribly small hole for a rifle

It could be 6.5 mm of course

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to be clear I don't completely rule out Oswald as a gunman

but there must have also been another man firing from behind

and of course one from the knoll

My real problem is simply the WR and that Oswald acted alone.

An impossibility IMO

So I guess I agree with the HSCA's final judgement

There was a conspiracy involving at least one other gunman

who was involved and how large a group it was - Is open to conjecture

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2018, 01:09:37 AM »

c'mon nutters

prove this MB BS


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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2018, 03:58:58 PM »
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c'mon nutters

prove this MB BS
As far as I can tell, Oswald fired all three shots and all three shots struck in the limo. The shot pattern was 1......2...3.  The SBT has no evidence to support it but, more to the point, the second shot SBT is disproved by the shot pattern because if the last two were close together (closer than 1 and 2) there is no possible way to have the second shot occur prior to z225 when JFK is obviously reacting to his throat wound.

So, as a "nutter" why would I want to prove the SBT or "Magic Bullet"?  It is a theory that lacks evidence and conflicts with large bodies of reliable mutually consistent evidence.  More to the point, it is not needed to explain the sequence of shots by Oswald using his MC rifle.

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2018, 04:33:30 PM »
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You may have a point that the photograph could help disprove the SBT.  As far as I know, the FBI did not extract any metal from the windshield frame when gathering and weighing all the bullet fragments.  That was a significant fragment and some or all of it may have been embedded deep into the frame.  If the fragments exceed the mass of a 6.5 mm bullet, that would disprove the SBT by itself.

As far as I know, the FBI did not extract any metal from the windshield frame when gathering and weighing all the bullet fragments.

The damage to the chrome molding was a deep dent....The bullet did not penetrate through the molding.  Please explain how it would be possible to "extract any metal from the windshield frame"  when the molding covering the frame had not been penetrated???

If you're actually looking for facts....measure the size of the dent by using the sun visor clip as a scale.   I'm sure that you'll find that the dent was made by a .45 caliber bullet.

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2018, 05:38:01 PM »
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As far as I know, the FBI did not extract any metal from the windshield frame when gathering and weighing all the bullet fragments.

The damage to the chrome molding was a deep dent....The bullet did not penetrate through the molding.  Please explain how it would be possible to "extract any metal from the windshield frame"  when the molding covering the frame had not been penetrated???

If you're actually looking for facts....measure the size of the dent by using the sun visor clip as a scale.   I'm sure that you'll find that the dent was made by a .45 caliber bullet.
The central hole does not appear to be very big.  The large dent could result from the smaller projectile impacting the metal frame and spreading the metal apart.  A .45 calibre bullet is 11 mm in diameter or about 7/16 of an inch - almost half an inch.   I have a feeling that a .45 bullet striking that frame would do much more damage than that.

Here's a question: if there was an elaborate conspiracy, why would the plan be to use a handgun - and then have such a poor shooter miss by so much? 

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Re: The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2019, 01:31:40 AM »
the .45 slug is a red herring

as soon as you start on an indisputable point

they try and take this case in 1,000 directions

stick to your narrative no matter what they say

WHY doesn't that picture stop the MBT and the WR in its tracks?

WHY NOT?


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