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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2019, 09:57:40 PM »
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There is a certain barnyard animal that likes wallowing in mud of their own creation more than anything...The on-topic here of the evidence Iacoletti endorsed but was too dishonest to admit is whether the woman labeled "Mrs Reid" in the official photo evidence is the same woman as "Jerladean Reid" in Sarah Stanton's photo album?...

Yet another lie.  I didn't "endorse" anything.  You've given us no reason to believe there was a "Jerladean Reid" in Sarah Stanton's photo album.  You can't even tell the truth about what Wanda and Rosa said in an interview that we can all hear.

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Please notice that the woman referred to as "Geraldine Reid" in the FBI report on Sanders sounds like she was in the 2nd floor offices when Baker confronted Oswald but didn't see it when you read Sanders' statement...Groden told me yesterday on the phone that FBI used "Mrs Robert A Reid" for the Mrs Reid who was outside because the "Geraldine Reid" who was inside was a different person...

For the hundredth time:  Jeraldean Reid WAS Mrs. Robert A Reid.

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Iacoletti thrives on dragging the thread into the mud and idiotic noise...But he doesn't answer the main point that if the "Mrs Reid" sitting next to Leavelle in the official assassination image has a visibly different face than Stanton's "Jerladean Reid"

What "official assassination image" says that Mrs Reid was sitting next to Leavelle?  How does an image even get to be an "official assassination image".  Is there an application process?

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that this stunning new evidence seriously backs-up Groden's claim...

What "stunning new evidence"?  Somebody falsely identified somebody in a photo (you do that all the time) and that somehow shows there were two people with the same name, and one of them was with Oswald during the assassination?  That's quite a magnificent leap.

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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2019, 09:57:40 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: February 06, 2019, 10:10:06 PM »
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For the hundredth time:  Jeraldean Reid WAS Mrs. Robert A Reid.

Because you are so interested in your knee-jerk trolling you're not following the argument...Read the FBI report on Sanders and she is quoted saying "Geraldine Reid' told of Oswald being confronted by Baker in the 2nd floor lunch room...The report says Geraldine Reid did not actually see this confrontation, but the wording makes it seem like she was in the 2nd floor office when it occurred and was still there when Oswald proceeded to walk through the offices right afterwards...This of course suggests she could also have possibly been there when Oswald came in for change during the shots and was the "Jeraldean Reid" Groden witnessed saying this...This would make her a different person than the "Mrs Robert A Reid" who was photographed outside...

Don't play dumb Iacoletti...My photo evidence is showing that the two women appear to be different...

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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2019, 11:21:23 PM »
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There is a certain barnyard animal that likes wallowing in mud of their own creation more than anything...The on-topic here of the evidence Iacoletti endorsed but was too dishonest to admit is whether the woman labeled "Mrs Reid" in the official photo evidence is the same woman as "Jerladean Reid" in Sarah Stanton's photo album?...

Please notice that the woman referred to as "Geraldine Reid" in the FBI report on Sanders sounds like she was in the 2nd floor offices when Baker confronted Oswald but didn't see it when you read Sanders' statement...Groden told me yesterday on the phone that FBI used "Mrs Robert A Reid" for the Mrs Reid who was outside because the "Geraldine Reid" who was inside was a different person...

Iacoletti thrives on dragging the thread into the mud and idiotic noise...But he doesn't answer the main point that if the "Mrs Reid" sitting next to Leavelle in the official assassination image has a visibly different face than Stanton's "Jerladean Reid" that this stunning new evidence seriously backs-up Groden's claim...

Mrs Robert A Reid and Geraldine Reid had the same telephone number.

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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2019, 11:21:23 PM »

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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2019, 11:47:42 PM »
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Don't play dumb Iacoletti...My photo evidence is showing that the two women appear to be different...

What photo evidence?  What two women?
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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2019, 11:49:48 PM »
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Mrs Robert A Reid and Geraldine Reid had the same telephone number.

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Right, what are the odds?  They also had the same husband!



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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2019, 11:49:48 PM »

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« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2019, 12:54:24 AM »
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Mrs Robert A Reid and Geraldine Reid had the same telephone number.

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Because they were probably the same person...What FBI is doing here is merging the two Jeraldean Reid's in to the Mrs Robert Reid who was outside during the shooting...

If you're following this evidence Tim, we have a second Jeraldean Reid because the faces don't match...The Mrs Robert Reid you are citing in Ferrell is the woman who was outside during the shooting with the glasses...The recorders of the statements you cite from Ferrell are cleverly trying to merge the two by combining the statements about seeing Oswald come into the 2nd floor offices with a Coke and the telephone number with the two women in order to make them one...But the cat is out of the bag with this wild card Intel didn't expect in Sarah Stanton's photo album Jerladean Reid...

Take notice of "Geraldine Reid" saying Truly and Oswald were obviously lunching...This is damage control to cover-up the fact Groden's Jeraldean Reid witnessed Oswald at a time that exonerated him dead to rights...They are trying to scuttle Groden's Reid and her witnessing by gumming-up her testimony with Truly in the lunchroom eating with Oswald...

Groden told me his "Jeraldean Reid" told her story of Oswald getting change from her during the shots to FBI...The Ferrell references you show are their damage control just like they did with Carolyn Arnold and almost certainly Sarah Stanton to get around this exonerating witnessing...

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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2019, 02:01:51 AM »
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If you're following this evidence Tim, we have a second Jeraldean Reid because the faces don't match...

Nope.  There was only one Mrs. Reid.  Just like there was only one Oswald.

The rest of this is just a fantasy story on par with some of Walt's best fabrications.

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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2019, 02:01:51 AM »

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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2019, 05:23:10 AM »
I'm copying and pasting, with my widdle android, a pertinent post from page 2 of that evil, evil website to this nice, nice one, so please be patient ...

Fascinating is the fact that in her 1964 WC testimony, Jeraldean Reid (AKA Mrs. Robert A. Reid) said she was standing near Ochus Campbell and Roy Truly some distance directly in front of the front steps during the assassination and that Campbell told her that the shots had come from the Grassy Knoll area.

EDIT: I just read her 11/23/63 affidavit (see below). In it she says she was standing near Campbell but that someone else said the shots had come from the Grassy Knoll area. This is different from what she testified later to the Warren Commission.

Jeraldean Reid appears in a few photographs and films:

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The four-image montage (viewable elsewhere on THIS forum) with red arrows pointing to my putative Jeraldean Reid which was created by someone I may know but who wasn't credited by whoever I lifted it from back in 2015.  LOL

The frame with the vertical red arrow is from the Dave Wiegman film. In the youtube video below, that frame is easiest to see in slow motion at 1:04. I figure this frame (with the vertical red arrow) was shot about four seconds before the first shot rang out.

For spatial-positions-of-the-witnesses reasons, please compare that frame with the frames viewable at 0.45 in the following version of the Wiegman film--

[2:48 version of DAVE WIEGMAN film viewable on youtube]

I believe the two suit-wearing men barely visible on the far right at 0:45 in the video (above the Chevy's right tail fin), just a few people away from where Jeraldean Reid was standing (she is hidden behind another woman at 0:45) could be Roy Truly and Ochus Campbell.

FWIW, she said that about two minutes after the assassination she encountered, shortly after she entered her large second-floor office area, a t-shirt wearing Oswald passing through in the general direction of the front elevator / front stairs with a full bottle of Coke.

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Her first name was not Jeraldine or Geraldine. It was Jeraldean. Her maiden name was Bray. She was born on August 24, 1912, so she was fifty-one years old on 11/22/63.

--Tommy  :sun

PS The photo of her sitting with Homicide Detective Jim Leavelle was taken on 11/23/63 according to Leavelle's April 7, 1964, WC testimony, ergo her different clothing.


Mr. BALL. You went to work at what time Saturday morning, November 23, 1963?

Mr. LEAVELLE. It would be around 8 o'clock, I imagine.

Mr. BALL. And did you take some statements that day?

Mr. LEAVELLE. Chances are I may have, I do not remember.

Mr. BALL. Here is----

Mr. LEAVELLE. It says took one affidavit from R. S. Truly, supervisor of Texas School Book and the other of employee, Mrs. R. A. Reid.

Mr. BALL. You are refreshing your memory from a report that you made, is that correct?

Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes.

Here is Reid's 11/23/63 affidavit from the Dallas Municipal Archives:

51. Affidavit In Any Fact typed, by Mrs. R. A. Reid. Statement as an employee of the Texas School Book Depository. States she saw Oswald leave the back office near the lunch room after the shooting, 11/23/63.

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I would appreciate some constructive feedback / observations.

Thanks,

--Tommy  :sun

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Note that in her affidavit, Jeraldean Reid / Mrs. Robert A. Reid mentions standing near Campbell, and in her WC testimony she says she stood near both Campbell and Truly.

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On 7/28/2015 at 10:41 PM, Chris Davidson said:

Thomas,

Here's a static version for you.

Chris
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Yes, Chris. IMHO your red arrow on the right is pointing at Truly.

I think it's a little easier to recognize his facial features, hat, and short stature in the enhanced GIF I posted, especially when looking at the GIF before it starts running.

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But now your red arrow on the right in the previous post lets everybody know the guy I'm talking about.

What's significant is that the tall guy next to him could be Ochus Campbell (is he wearing a white shirt and a tie, but no jacket? -- the potential O.V. Campbell whom new member Linda recently pointed out in the Martin and Hughes clips also appears to be wearing a white shirt but no jacket), and that a woman who resembles the woman Det. Jim Leavelle was talking with the next day in the Homicide and Robbery Bureau -- fifty-one year old Mrs. Robert A. Reid? -- can be seen about six feet away from them in the GIF.

Thanks!

--Tommy  :sun

Edited July 29, 2015 by Thomas Graves


-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)
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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2019, 05:23:10 AM »

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« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2019, 05:38:11 AM »
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The rest of this is just a fantasy story on par with some of Walt's best fabrications.

He says while blatantly ducking a clearly spelled-out line of reasoning backed by evidence...Iacoletti can't answer the two different faces in public without  flagrant troll and run...
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Re: Max Holland Reviews "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak"
« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2019, 07:03:07 AM »
Thanks Tommy. You say on page 1 of that EF thread that you don?t know who identified the woman in the photo with Leavelle as Reid, and it appears that the entire basis for ever calling her Reid was that Reid once talked to Leavelle and she was in her 50s.

So much for Doyle?s ?two different faces?.

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