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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2018, 03:25:33 PM »
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'I know there was a conspiracy to murder President Kennedy and cover up the crime.' is a statement of personal belief not a statement of knowledge. It is not a fact but a belief.
A belief that it is a fact. What is the difference? It is obvious to the discerning mind that there was a cover-up and so it is not just a theory.
 
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The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial.
                            Nicholas Katzenbach Asst Attorney General November 25 1963, the day of the Kennedy funeral.       
You may have the last word there Mr Turner, but it probably won't mean too much in the long range scope of things. Cheers

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
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Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2018, 03:55:50 PM »
Those are your opinions not facts.  You are taking what he said 49 years later as gospel.

Mr. Newman's initial statement on TV (a couple hours after the assassination) is that the shots came from the shelter (pergola).  This is an undeniable fact.  He said so.  It is further validated by Mr. Zapruder's initial statement in the same TV newscast that the bullets came from behind him.  Also an undeniable fact.  The Mary Moorman photo shows someone behind him, an undeniable fact.
The following has been proven: 1. Mr. Zapruder said a shot came from behind him. 2. Mr. Newman said a shot came from the shelter, 3. A person is shown in the Mary Moorman photo behind Mr. Zapruder and Ms. Sitsman, 4. The Nix film shows a shot being fired from the shelter, and 5. Photographs show clouds of gunsmoke seconds after the assassination.

There is further proof of a shot from the shelter from testimony said in the Warren Commission by police officers and secret service men.

The five points and the statements of the Warren Commission as a collective show strong evidence of a shot from the pergola and thus strong proof that JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.

Bill, you clearly show a disdain for facts.  Why is that?

     Are you Positive that Bill Newman SPECIFICALLY said the shot(s) "came from the SHELTER"? Paraphrasing someone and including a Specific Location as you have done is the way Urban Legends get started. I am familiar with Newman generally saying that he thought the shots came from BEHIND him, and he was afraid his family might be in the line-of-fire. I have Never heard him Specify the SHELTER as being the Specific location of a shooter.

Offline Keyvan Shahrdar

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2018, 04:13:40 PM »
Nomenclature will get you I guess.  He states in his TV interview the shots came from behind.  He further said from the mall on top of the hill.  It still all the same thing, It came from behind him.

Fact is a fact.

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Offline Steve Logan

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2018, 04:20:10 PM »
Nomenclature will get you I guess.  He states in his TV interview the shots came from behind.  He further said from the mall on top of the hill.  It still all the same thing, It came from behind him.

Fact is a fact.

A couple of questions.

Were the shots fired from the pergola suppressed?
Are you familiar with sound of firing a weapon from a cement enclosure?

Did any witnesses report seeing a person or people leaving the pergola with their hands over their ears?


Offline Keyvan Shahrdar

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2018, 04:36:11 PM »
A couple of questions.

Were the shots fired from the pergola suppressed?
Are you familiar with sound of firing a weapon from a cement enclosure?

Did any witnesses report seeing a person or people leaving the pergola with their hands over their ears?

I have not heard of such.

The closest that I have read and heard is from Lee Bowers on his interview with Mark Lane.  He stated that he saw two men, a flash of light or smoke, the immediate area of the embankment.


Regardless, if you are trying to say that the shots from there would be too loud, I would like for you to show proof instead of your opinion.

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Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2018, 04:57:27 PM »
A couple of questions.

Were the shots fired from the pergola suppressed?
Are you familiar with sound of firing a weapon from a cement enclosure?

Did any witnesses report seeing a person or people leaving the pergola with their hands over their ears?

    Heck, allegedly Zapruder and Sitzman eventually went inside that Shelter following the Kill Shot yet there are No Images of both/either of them exiting that shelter or exiting Dealey Plaza. There are Many Missing Images in the cavalierly accepted narrative assigned to the JFK Assassination and its' aftermath.

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2018, 05:12:42 PM »
Its a fact that he said he thought it came from behind him. Its not a fact that it did.

If he was the only one to say this then it would be open to debate, but he wasn't. The majority of witnesses in DP said that shots originated where Zapruder said.

You can continue to ignore it, but that won't change that fact.

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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2018, 05:15:19 PM »
Who cares. Still an opinion.

Says the guy who offers his unsupported opinion all the time. Who cares indeed?