Author Topic: The Empty Window  (Read 15381 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline James Hess

  • Super Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1757
Re: The Empty Window
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2017, 08:11:05 AM »
Thanks to the WC information on Dougherty is seriously lacking. Pity as he was the closest employee by foot to the assassin apart from any accomplice (if there was one). Seems a note from mum was all that required to avoid Eisenberg's concerns.
Colin.

Note the OP.

Please.

You first diverted to Brock....NP  he was quoted

Then you diverted to Dougherty.

Now this is to be about Dougherty????

Note the OP, Please.

But OK
Mr. BALL - Will you state your name and address for the record?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Jack Edwin Dougherty.
Mr. BALL - And your address?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - 1827 South Marsalis.
Mr. BALL - How old are you?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Forty.
Mr. BALL - Where were you born?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Here in Dallas.
Mr. BALL - Where did you go to school?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Sunset High School.
Mr. BALL - You went through Sunset High School?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - What year did you get out of high school? About?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Oh, 1937.
Mr. BALL - 1937?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - What kind of work did you do after that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, of course, a year or so, you might say--just work in grocery stores until I was 19 and volunteered for the Armed Services in October--October 24, 1942.
Mr. BALL - How long were you in the service?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - 2 years, 1 month, 17 days, to be exact.
Mr. BALL - And you were discharged from the Service, then, after the War, was it?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - What did you do during the service---during your period in the service?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, you might say just about a little bit of everything, from guard duty to---
Mr. BALL - Did you have any active service?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, no--I volunteered for active service, but they said you couldn't very well volunteer--you have to be drafted, so they said, they told me at the time.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever leave the United States during the War?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Oh, yes.
Mr. BALL - Where did you go?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I was stationed, oh, for about a year up in Indiana up there---Seymour, Ind.
Mr. BALL - Then where did you go from there in the service?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I stayed there until I got discharged.
Mr. BALL - You didn't ever go outside the country to Europe?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Oh, no.
Mr. BALL - Or to the South Seas?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - No.
Mr. BALL - You stayed in this country all the time?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Now, did you ever have any difficulty with your speech?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - No.
Mr. BALL - You never had any?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - No.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever have any difficulty in the Army with any medical treatment or anything of that sort?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - No.
Mr. BALL - None at all?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - No.
Mr. BALL - What did you do after you got out of the Army?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, jobs were pretty scarce about the time I got out of the service, so I just went from place to place and applied and put my application in, so I started over here at the Texas School Book Depository and put my application in there and I got it through the Suburban Employment Agency, and I been working there ever since.
Mr. BALL - And that was when--in 1940, was it, you started to work at the Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - September 17, 1940.
Mr. BALL - 1940 what?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Let's see, I have been with them 11 years--that would be---
Mr. BALL - That would be 1952, wouldn't it?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes--that's 1952.
Mr. BALL - 1952?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes; that's right, to be exact.
Mr. BALL - What did you do between the time you got out of the service and 1952?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't do anything to be frank with you.
Mr. BALL - You didn't?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - No.
Mr. BALL - You didn't work?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Oh, no.
Mr. BALL - You stayed at home?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - Did you live with your father and mother?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Have you ever been married?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - No.
Mr. BALL - And you still live with your father and mother?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Now, what kind of work have you been doing at the Texas School Book Depository in the last few years?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Oh---shipping clerk.
Mr. BALL - And what kind of work is that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, that's when they bring the orders from on the second floor, and in other words, you fill them from the---they are orders, I guess you would call them orders, to fill from there, and outside of doing little odd jobs besides that---that's it.
...

Now,
Note the OP< Please?
« Last Edit: January 10, 2017, 08:18:50 AM
by James Hess
»

Offline Colin Crow

  • Super Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6358
Re: The Empty Window
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2017, 08:18:14 AM »
You introduced Brock, who I assumed had some inside knowledge about Oswald. Apparently he is someone with an opinion. A rather flowery rhetoric based on what?

Personally I would have thought a totally unknowing Oswald would have taken the opportunity to view the motorcade, but that's just my opinion FWIW.

Offline James Hess

  • Super Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1757
Re: The Empty Window
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2017, 08:21:21 AM »
You introduced Brock, who I assumed had some inside knowledge about Oswald. Apparently he is someone with an opinion. A rather flowery rhetoric based on what?

Personally I would have thought a totally unknowing Oswald would have taken the opportunity to view the motorcade, but that's just my opinion FWIW.
You are correct.

Offline James Hess

  • Super Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1757
Re: The Empty Window
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2017, 08:43:16 AM »
You introduced Brock, who I assumed had some inside knowledge about Oswald. Apparently he is someone with an opinion. A rather flowery rhetoric based on what?

Personally I would have thought a totally unknowing Oswald would have taken the opportunity to view the motorcade, but that's just my opinion FWIW.

" A rather flowery rhetoric based on what?"

 :pointdown:

"...Personally I would have thought a totally unknowing Oswald would have taken the opportunity to view the motorcade,..."

 :08:

But we have him on camera claiming he "knows nothing about this situation"

 roflmfao

Offline Colin Crow

  • Super Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6358
Re: The Empty Window
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2017, 09:13:12 AM »
" A rather flowery rhetoric based on what?"

 :pointdown:

"...Personally I would have thought a totally unknowing Oswald would have taken the opportunity to view the motorcade,..."

 :08:

But we have him on camera claiming he "knows nothing about this situation"

 roflmfao


Perhaps he wasn't completely truthful. A bit like Williams, Jarman and Norman maybe.....who knows why people would lie in "that situation".

Offline James Hess

  • Super Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1757
Re: The Empty Window
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2017, 09:15:03 AM »
Perhaps he wasn't completely truthful. A bit like Williams, Jarman and Norman maybe.....who knows why people would lie in "that situation".
But, on another thread you are repeatedly asking me to "put myself in his place"...BRW)

But Oswald gets a pass?

Online Walt Cakebread

  • Super Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10603
Re: The Empty Window
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2017, 12:57:18 PM »
I don't believe Oswald was at any of the windows that day and he also wasn't in the doorway when the shots were fired.  The person in the doorway alleged to be Oswald was Lovelady in my opinion. I think there was a team in the TSBD but they were stood down last minute.  This was a team lead by Mac Wallace.  The mob team in the Dal Tex and 2 mob teams on the GK (wall and picket fence) had orders to proceed regardless of any abort instruction.

Lee Oswald himself said that he was not on the steps......  In effect.     Lee told the interrogators that he was in the first floor lunch room when JFK passed by the TSBD.