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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Several bullets "missed the limo", a problem to both LNīS and CTīS ...
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2016, 07:32:22 PM »
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dum(b)dum(b)

Apparently the concept of bullet fragments can't be considered. Anything that hit anything anywhere had to be a whole bullet.

And another apparently: the idea was to frame Oswald as the lone assassin but apparently they decided to have multiple shooters firing from all over the place. Requiring, among other things, falsifying the autopsy and films and photos that would be taken.

Yeah, let's frame a guy as the sole assassin - have him fire from behind - then plant shooters all over the place. Let's make it as complicated as possible.




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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2016, 07:38:44 PM »
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Apparently the concept of bullet fragments can't be considered. Anything that hit anything anywhere had to be a whole bullet.

And another apparently: the idea was to frame Oswald as the lone assassin but apparently they decided to have multiple shooters firing from all over the place. Requiring, among other things, falsifying the autopsy and films and photos that would be taken.

Yeah, let's frame a guy as the sole assassin - have him fire from behind - then plant shooters all over the place. Let's make it as complicated as possible.

The notion that intact bullet strike caused the damage to the chrome piece on the windshield is about as stupid as any coming from CTs. That seems to be what Jorn is suggesting. Not surprisingly, Walt has embraced it.

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Re: Several bullets "missed the limo", a problem to both LNīS and CTīS ...
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Re: Several bullets "missed the limo", a problem to both LNīS and CTīS ...
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 09:14:15 PM »
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The notion that intact bullet strike caused the damage to the chrome piece on the windshield is about as stupid as any coming from CTs. That seems to be what Jorn is suggesting. Not surprisingly, Walt has embraced it.



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Re: Several bullets "missed the limo", a problem to both LNīS and CTīS ...
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 09:24:49 PM »
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Apparently the concept of bullet fragments can't be considered. Anything that hit anything anywhere had to be a whole bullet.





Are you talking about CE-399?

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Re: Several bullets "missed the limo", a problem to both LNīS and CTīS ...
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2016, 10:27:54 PM »
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(The damage to the window frame, though, could hardly be a richochet from the headwound since it would have lost all its momentum when hitting Kennedy and had no "hard surface" to "bounce against" to go upwards to hit the window frame with such power to bend the chromed metal)

EXCELLENT OBSERVATION!!,  Jorn......  I've always thought that the dent on the chrome above the rear view mirror was created by a big slow moving bullet with little penterating power....

That dent is exactly what would be expected from a 45 acp bullet.  It is this dent that has lead me to believe that there was a silencer equipped gun employed that day.......

Without going into a lot of detail .....I do know that the CIA had built several silencer equipped 30 caliber m-1 carbines  which were re-barreled to fire the 45 caliber ACP cartridge.

The 45 ACP had a subsonic muzzle velocity ( around 900 f/p/s) so  it was only necessary to silence the muzzle blast........

Men who fired the silenced carbine reported that it was so quiet that the only sound audible was the click of the bolt .

P.S. JFK's head wound is just what would be expected if he was hit by a 45 caliber dum dum bullet.

Thanks Walt, I donīt know the weapon you are referring to but it makes sense for a PROFESIONAL HIT in those days, silence helps concealment and no penetration reduces the risk of hitting the wrong target and a .45 250 grain hard cast lead wadcutter (dum dum) bullet will surely garantee quite a wound cavity ...

My reference is that in Finland and the baltic countries they were used to work with Carcanos and similar rifles IN SIMILAR FASHION to the extend that the overwhelming russian forces COULD NOT BEAT Finland and only succeeded in getting 10 percent of finnish territory thanks to this abillity alone with the finnish riflemen moving only by skiing with their rifle on the back ...

The problem, of course, is that the balistic trajectory of a heavy slow bullet, which is much more curved, requieres a more precise sight picture which is more sensitive to corrections of gravity when shooting downwards in pronounced angles ...

Just like when in basket ball the ball goes in higher curved trajecteries in comparison with the tipical flat trajectory on a tennis ball ..., but if you throw a basket ball out of the window it is much easier to get a FLAT trajectory ...

If you throw a golf ball at the top of a melon it will bounce of and continue in a new trajectory, but if you throw it hard enough it will burry itself in the melon and loose energy to the exetend it will hardly have power left over to continue and even be able to move a glass of water ...

So, to me, yes,  I also see the damage to the windshield frame AS A DIRECT hit ...

So "missing" high or low is understandable but the question remains, WHY MISSING RIGHT OR LEFT TO THE LIMO, if not on purpose?
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Re: Several bullets "missed the limo", a problem to both LNīS and CTīS ...
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2016, 11:01:23 PM »
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John,

I've always said that the greatest evidence of conspiracy lies in the number of shots that missed. Not the number that hit, but the number that missed. If more than one shot missed, you have at least four shots, irrespective of the direction they were traveling or where they hit.

Steve Thomas

Ok, fair enough, so you donīt care about how or why they missed as long as they are acounted for, but are they officially then acounted for ?, there must have some big discussions of this which I must have somehow "missed" ... (smile )