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Online Jerry Organ

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Re: The In Situ Photo
« Reply #147 on: March 08, 2017, 07:45:26 PM »
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Each square of the grid represents a foot. So the map shows the rifle about five feet south of the stairs.

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Notice the first entry which pertains to the rifle....  It says Found by Dept Sheriff Weitzman on the sixth floor , 411 Elm 5 ' from west wall and 8 ' from stairway.



Still haven't found where Studebaker measured the rifle at eight feet from the stairway?

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« Reply #148 on: March 08, 2017, 07:54:10 PM »
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Each square of the grid represents a foot. So the map shows the rifle about five feet south of the stairs.

Still haven't found where Studebaker measured the rifle at eight feet from the stairway?

Can you post a blow up of the upper left hand corner of Studebaker's map?

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Re: The In Situ Photo
« Reply #149 on: March 08, 2017, 09:15:44 PM »
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Each square of the grid represents a foot. So the map shows the rifle about five feet south of the stairs.

Still haven't found where Studebaker measured the rifle at eight feet from the stairway?

 of course,both ends of the rows were closed off where you couldn’t see through ‘em. You
had to get up and look in ‘em.
Mr. BELIN. You are gesturing with your hand there-would you say that
the boxes, then, as you gestured, were in the shape of what I would call a
rectangular “O”, so to speak?
Mr. CRAIG. Yes, yes, uh-huh.
Mr. BEliN. And about how high were the walls of this enclosure, so to speak?
Mr. CRAIG. Well, it-it was different heights. So. the part where I looked
in particularly was about-uh-oh, was about 5-foot.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
And you gestured there in such a way that you had to lean over and look
straight down? Would that be a fair statement of your gestures?
Mr. CRAIG. Yes; yes. You had to lean over the boxes and look down

How can a rifle be inserted into the "rectangular "O" that had "both ends of the rows were closed off"  and the only way to see the rifle was by looking straight down into the chasm?

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Re: The In Situ Photo
« Reply #150 on: March 08, 2017, 10:03:37 PM »
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Can you post a blow up of the upper left hand corner of Studebaker's map?


From the image you linked to:



From a better-quality image:



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of course,both ends of the rows were closed off where you couldn’t see through ‘em. You
had to get up and look in ‘em.
Mr. BELIN. You are gesturing with your hand there-would you say that
the boxes, then, as you gestured, were in the shape of what I would call a
rectangular “O”, so to speak?
Mr. CRAIG. Yes, yes, uh-huh.
Mr. BEliN. And about how high were the walls of this enclosure, so to speak?
Mr. CRAIG. Well, it-it was different heights. So. the part where I looked
in particularly was about-uh-oh, was about 5-foot.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
And you gestured there in such a way that you had to lean over and look
straight down? Would that be a fair statement of your gestures?
Mr. CRAIG. Yes; yes. You had to lean over the boxes and look down

How can a rifle be inserted into the "rectangular "O" that had "both ends of the rows were closed off"  and the only way to see the rifle was by looking straight down into the chasm?

Boone is talking about the part near where he was standing, not where the rifle was. Boxes were only two high where the rifle was lifted over.

 





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Re: The In Situ Photo
« Reply #151 on: March 19, 2017, 07:39:38 PM »
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Notice the first entry which pertains to the rifle....  It says Found by Dept Sheriff Weitzman on the sixth floor , 411 Elm 5 ' from west wall and 8 ' from stairway.



Notice the first entry which pertains to the rifle....  It says Found by Dept Sheriff Weitzman on the sixth floor , 411 Elm

5 ' from west wall and 8 ' from stairway.


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Re: The In Situ Photo
« Reply #152 on: March 19, 2017, 08:21:34 PM »
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From the image you linked to:



From a better-quality image:



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Boone is talking about the part near where he was standing, not where the rifle was. Boxes were only two high where the rifle was lifted over.

 




Try to show a bit of intelligence.....LOOK at Studebaker's map, and notice that he depicts the rifle as lying on it's side and in the middle of a lazy "U" enclosure.

With the open end of the "U" facing west toward the window.   You should be able to see that there are no other boxes depicted in the drawing.  I believe it was Craig who said that the rifle was lying on the floor in this enclosure but at the time it was found by Boone with his powerful flashlight the west end was closed and the only way the rifle could be seen was by looking straight down into the cavern.

The photo makes it clear that the rifle could NOT have been in that narrow crevice at the north side of the cavern.....  and the evidence lists says the rifle was 5 feet from the west wall and 8 feet from the stairway.   Those coordinates place the rifle right on the bottom of the enclosure just to the left of the pallet.

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« Reply #153 on: March 19, 2017, 08:44:08 PM »
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From the image you linked to:



From a better-quality image:



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Boone is talking about the part near where he was standing, not where the rifle was. Boxes were only two high where the rifle was lifted over.

 


 

Notice that the deceiver has a hard time inserting the light weight 3/4 inch thick piece of wood into the crevice... Do you think he could have placed a five inch thick  eight pound rifle with a scope into the narrow crevice??